Posted on 07/29/2011 9:33:47 AM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet
House Republicans will link passage of a balanced-budget amendment to Speaker John Boehner’s (R-Ohio) last-ditch debt-ceiling plan, which GOP lawmakers said would move the measure to passage in a high-stakes vote later on Friday.
Republican lawmakers voiced confidence the enhanced bill would pass muster with conservatives, as Rep. Mo Brooks (R-Ala.) predicted the balanced-budget amendment change would bring 10 to 20 more GOP members on board.
(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...
Right on brother! I’m from the worst neighborhood in Charlotte. Most white folk couldn’t walk through there at night. But I’ve been to places here in E KY that I didn’t want to be in after dark. “Them boys said I had a purty mouth. What does that mean?”
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Balanced budgets for 20 years won’t reduce the National Debt ONE RED CENT.
The S word.
Surplus. We need Surplus budgets.
none of these tools have an ounce of *principle* in their bones...well except for the socialist/commies in BOTH parties...
this perpetual adding and changing things to suit a demographic percentage point is CYA at its finest...NOT *service* or *representation*...
dog-N-pony-kabuki to keep their own gravy train rollin, nothing more...oH WAIT !!! 'the numbers' say i can flip my vote today, yeah, now i can *say* i voted a certain direction to help my perpetual re-election campaign...
gutless and annoying...
Two months ago it had the makings of a serious defeat for The Usurping Marxist Onada. But Boehner blew it by including raising the debt ceiling and no meaningful spending reductions in his bill. Then he embarked on the comedy of negotiating with himself for two months. All those secret and late night meetings with Pelosi, Reid and Onada were BS from beginning to end.
For some reason I cannot fathom Boehner really thought he was lookin’ good. All he did was disgust and embarrass reasonably intelligent conservative and GOP voters.
I think the light bulb finally went on when he called a closed door meeting with Tea Party Conservatives and the to “get their asses in line”. Didn’t work.
So after two months of the circle jerk Boehner has accomplished nothing. He can do some good by working with Tea Party Conservatives and non-RINO pubbies in the House and Senate to insure any vote on a budget is put off until after Aug 2—the demrat proclaimed Armageddon. When nothing significant happens—it will not—and Americans are going about a normal life the jig will be up.
Why won’t the sky fall? America is too big to fail—even for the Marxist Onada.
Think about it. Except for a bunch of world-wide bloviating what will materially change on Aug 3rd as far as America is concerned? Nothing.
One hopes the demrats may have engineered one manufactured crisis too many and it will hurt them severely in 2012. Same goes for GOP RINOs.
On reflection, I think Tea Party Conservatives established themselves as a force to be reckoned with. Note to GOP: Come to us we’re not coming to you.
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/the-balanced-budget-amendment-is-a-bad-idea/
Maybe I’m just too cynical, but this is what jumps out at me:
“If you can cobble together a supermajority, you can blow through this amendment like a cannonball through wet toilet paper. The Democrats managed that for a couple years not all that long ago all by themselves and even got a few controversial votes through with some Republican assistance.”
And this:
“The supermajority also poses a problem in the other direction, though, to the extent that it gives too much power to minorities in both Houses of Congress to block measures that are either popular or, just plain necessary. “
I also think equating running a business, small or large, with running the federal government is too simplistic. We can see from experience that politicians don’t get “fired” for irresponsible financial decisions - the opposite occurs. Currently 40 - 50% of their “employers” want to spend, spend, spend. And of course, politicians have safety in numbers (”bi-partisan votes, bi-partisan committees, blah, blah, blah”).
And I’m also uneasy with the notion of types like Obama, Harry Reid, Barney Frank, Nancy Pelosi, et al using this as a weapon to play politics with our national security, in a situation where a balanced budget might be secondary to more immediate concerns.
If a BBA won’t prevent the problems we’re dealing with already (and it can’t, because it wouldn’t be difficult to do an end run around the numbers through political wheeling and dealing, accounting tricks, shifting items on and off the budget, etc.) then what’s the purpose of pushing it now, when it won’t pass anyway? I think it’s because it provides political cover for republicans.
At this point, energy would be well-spent cleaning house: Defeating Obama, holding the house, and taking the senate. But not with “compassionate conservatives” this time!
Well you give it a good argument, let me say. And, I’ll say softly, you could be right.
But why not try it? Don’t give me all the reaons why is CAN’T be done, the pitfalls inherent, the enormous obstacle.
BTW, the Boehner BBA has a section dealing with war wherein if a war breaks out the entire budget is removed from the table for discussion. I must suppose it’s a way to keep politics from stopping our defense, as you, probably rightfully, suggest the far left dems would do.
You say the politicos never get “fired” for not adhering to a budget....hey, you gotta start somewhere. Further, I’d disagree. Here in Delaware, a liberal state if ever was one, our state guys are always getting into hot water over budget issues. Don’t dismiss it out of hand I argue. Given time those that keep putting silly stuff into a budget will begin to pay the price. The public will be keen to it...it’s not 1995 anymore, Dorothy. And do not make the mistake of diminuating the influence of the Tea Party. For the more they mock them, the stronger they’ll get. Of this I’m sure.
As for putting all effort into winning the 2012 senate and prez....this concerns me. Because the Blue Blood GOP have been telling us to wait until we land a man on the moon, wait until we have half the House, wait until we have 3/4 of the House, wait until we have the majority in the senate....WAIT...we now need 60 for the filibusters! As for the prez, let’s wait just another term so we don’t hurt his or her re-election.
We’ve been hearing this for about ever, we dutifully voted for Juan McCain who last week spit upon us. Dear Lord, Mike Castle....well hey, Chris Coons is probably voting for all the communist stuff but AT LEAST HE’S A DEMOCRAT! If Castle was sitting in that Senate we’d be fuming at yet another Blue Blood Ruling Class betrayal.
At this point, while it’s been a good discussion, civil, no reduction to name calling, I’ll have to throw out the most peaceful words every combined, words I learned back yea years ago when I was a Union Rep....we’ll just have to agree to disagree.
If I had to bet I’d bet those Tea Party guys got a mission and they’re moving on.
I hear ya!
I agree with Steve Forbes, that Nixon’s decision to break away from gold was the start of all this. On the other hand, LBJ’s bread and bullets policies caused a big mess. The liquidity crisis in the spring of ‘68 led to his decision to cut and run.
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