Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Rick Perry, the Democratic years: the politician before he became a conservative Republican
Houston Chronicle ^ | 07/25/11 | Richard Dunham

Posted on 07/30/2011 1:04:11 PM PDT by freespirited

Gov. Rick Perry, a no-apologies conservative known for slashing government spending and opposing all tax increases, is about as Republican as you can get.

But that wasn’t always the case.

Perry spent his first six years in politics as a Democrat, in a somewhat forgotten history that is sure to be revived and scrutinized by Republican opponents if he decides to run for president.

A raging liberal he was not. Elected to represent a slice of rural West Texas in the state House of Representatives in 1984, Perry, a young rancher and cotton farmer, gained an early reputation as a fiscal conservative. He was one of a handful of freshman “pit bulls,” so named because they sat in the lower pit of the House Appropriations Committee, where they fought to keep spending low.

But Perry cast some votes and took a few stands that seem to be at odds with the fiscal conservatism he champions today. The most vivid example is Perry’s support of the $5.7 billion tax hike in 1987, signed by Republican Gov. Bill Clements but opposed by most of the GOP members...

Almost a quarter century later, Perry, as governor, was faced with a similarly sized budget shortfall. But he took a markedly different tack in 2011: He opposed any new taxes, and signed a budget that made the first reduction in overall spending on public education since at least 1949.

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.chron.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: rickperry; texas
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-5051-85 last
To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

I have never thought of the man known as “the most effective Senate majority leader in history”, and who had won the Presidency with 61% of the vote, as a passive, mousy man who was no match for the young punks of the dead Kennedy administration.


51 posted on 07/30/2011 4:19:09 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Bristol Palin's book "Not Afraid Of Life: My Journey So Far" became a New York Times, best seller.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: smoothsailing

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2756338/posts?page=44#44


52 posted on 07/30/2011 4:19:23 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: jonrick46

Politician Perry switched parties in 1989, I don’t know anything about a transformation in the 90s, or a transformation at any other time


53 posted on 07/30/2011 4:24:01 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Bristol Palin's book "Not Afraid Of Life: My Journey So Far" became a New York Times, best seller.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: jdub

See post 14.


54 posted on 07/30/2011 4:25:32 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Bristol Palin's book "Not Afraid Of Life: My Journey So Far" became a New York Times, best seller.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Your post is, for the most part, accurate.

I was born in Atlanta in 1952 and it was still the “Solid South” where you would vote for a yellow dog as long as he was running as a Democrat. (thus the term)

It was extraordinarily hard for a people who have voted ‘Democrat’ for generation after generation to finally give up and join the “enemy” camp.

The first Republican governor of Georgia wasn’t elected until 2002 and if anyone wants to call Zell Miller a liberal.....well....be my guest.

And let’s not forget the Al Gore of 1988. He was pro-life and loved that tobacco that he grew and suckered...blah, blah, blah.

Rick Perry gets a pass, and barring any revelation that has yet to surface, he probably gets my vote as well.


55 posted on 07/30/2011 4:38:27 PM PDT by eddie willers
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: eddie willers

For years, Texas Democrats were more conservative than Rockefeller Republicans.


56 posted on 07/30/2011 4:39:40 PM PDT by dfwgator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 55 | View Replies]

To: freespirited
Perry is no conservative, unless it is in the jorge bush sense. You cannot name an issue that turkey has not been on all sides of.
57 posted on 07/30/2011 4:44:58 PM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: jonrick46

The fact that the man has no core beliefs, other than he would sell his sole to lead the parade.


58 posted on 07/30/2011 4:47:56 PM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: ngat
True, the peace now crowd was liberals, they hated Johnson, because of the war, same thing is going on with Obummer now, the liberals only give lip service to his Libyan war. The media is covering up how they feel.
59 posted on 07/30/2011 4:55:19 PM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator
For years, Texas Democrats were more conservative than Rockefeller Republicans.

In Georgia (outside the Atlanta Doughnut) they still are!

60 posted on 07/30/2011 4:57:17 PM PDT by eddie willers
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 56 | View Replies]

To: eddie willers

Anyone trying to sell Al Gore has no credibility.


61 posted on 07/30/2011 5:07:44 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Bristol Palin's book "Not Afraid Of Life: My Journey So Far" became a New York Times, best seller.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 55 | View Replies]

To: B4Ranch
Well, you probably wouldn't want me over for dinner either, then, since I'd like to see Perry as Sarah Palin's running mate! :)

Photobucket

62 posted on 07/30/2011 5:59:56 PM PDT by smoothsailing
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 52 | View Replies]

To: smoothsailing

You called that correctly. I am a Sarah supporter but I do believe she got this one wrong.


63 posted on 07/30/2011 6:13:42 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 62 | View Replies]

To: smoothsailing

There’s one question you can ask him that will reveal his true feelings towards our style of government. “Sir, do you support Agenda 21?” If he says yes, shoot him on the spot and save America.


64 posted on 07/30/2011 6:19:01 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 62 | View Replies]

To: smoothsailing

Palin had nothing but praise for Perry.

examples:

**Rick Perry is true to conservative principles even when others think the party needs to go a different direction.

**He does what is right regardless of whether it is popular.

**He walks the walk of a true conservative.

**Not every child is born into ideal circumstances, but every life is sacred. Rick Perry knows this – it is at the core of his being.

**Will you join me in supporting a true conservative for governor – Rick Perry?

**Rick Perry is proven and principled.


65 posted on 07/30/2011 6:24:10 PM PDT by deport
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: freespirited

No mystery here. Until the 1980s, Republicans were rare in Texas. We had conservative Democrats versus less conservative Democrats.

I know several older people who are solid conservatives but won’t vote for a Republican because they still remember the stories their grandmother told them about what happened during Reconstruction.

For what it’s worth, the last Democrat I voted for was Senator Lloyd Bentsen, an honorable man who had the good sense to be the first major member of the Clinton administration


66 posted on 07/30/2011 8:30:50 PM PDT by DallasMike
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: B4Ranch
There’s one question you can ask him that will reveal his true feelings towards our style of government. “Sir, do you support Agenda 21?” If he says yes, shoot him on the spot and save America.

Well, if he says yes, I'll let you do the shooting, but I'd sure as hell want him at least tarred and feathered and run out of town on a rail first, before I handed him over to you.

I'm sure you're aware that nutbags like Alex Jones, Lew Rockwell and the Ron Paul crazy people are trying to tie Perry to every UN-Bilderberger-black helicopter-flying Martian monkey type conspiracy their fevered minds can dream up. They did the same thing to Bush, nothing new about it. Is Agenda 21 real! I think there's something to it, don't you? Is Rick involved with it or support it? I can't seriously buy such a weird concept, but there are those who do. They're more than likely either pushing some strange personal agenda or they're certifiably insane. LOL!

67 posted on 07/30/2011 8:33:07 PM PDT by smoothsailing
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 64 | View Replies]

To: deport

By jove, I think she likes him! :)


68 posted on 07/30/2011 8:35:06 PM PDT by smoothsailing
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 65 | View Replies]

To: DallasMike

Ack. Meant to say that Bentsen was the first major member of the Clinton administration to leave.

Though I don’t recall any comments from Bentsen at the time, most people here believed that he wised up and didn’t want to be associated with a skank like Clinton.


69 posted on 07/30/2011 8:44:17 PM PDT by DallasMike
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 66 | View Replies]

To: DallasMike
For what it’s worth, the last Democrat I voted for was Senator Lloyd Bentsen

The last Democrat I voted for was Zell Miller ...who got so pissed off at his own party that he spoke at the 2004 Republican Convention.

70 posted on 07/30/2011 9:24:28 PM PDT by eddie willers
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 66 | View Replies]

To: smoothsailing
After looking at your profile page I am going to give you an short description of Agenda 21. It is literally the worst thing that has happened in my life because it has but one goal and that is to destroy the American culture, the American government, everything that you and I believe in down to our religious beliefs.

They don't care if you're Jewish, Hindu, Catholic, Mormon or a certified witchtalker. You must not believe in or look up to anything stronger than the globalist socialist communist government. The United Nations Charter (Constitution) is going to be the World Government and bring about New World Order.

How, you ask? You are seeing it happen right now. Economic Disaster.

Agenda 21 Part I: A Global Economic Disaster in the Making

Agenda 21 Part II: Globalist Totalitarian Dictatorship Invading a Town Near You – With Your Permission

Agenda 21 Part III: Maryland County Abolishes Agenda 21 – Now for the Rest of the Country

________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

These articles are available on numerous websites across the Internet. I just happened to pick this one. Don't feel like reading? Go to Youtube.com and put in agenda-21. There is days of information available for you.

Yes, Agenda 21 is real and it is going to try to control you, your family, your business, everything! Most Americans don't want to sit down and learn about the deadly infection that is in our governments, local, state and federal. Call your City manager and ask him if he supports Agenda 21. He'll tell you, "Damn right I do. I get hundreds of thousands of earmark dollars from them".

Think this is a new idea? Nope, It's been in the works for almost 100 years now. Patient buggers aren't they? They're winning the game so why should they care about how long it takes?

Agenda 21 For Dummies

Agenda 21 For Intelligent People

71 posted on 07/30/2011 9:50:30 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 67 | View Replies]

To: B4Ranch
I appreciate your thoughtfulness in sharing the Agenda 21 info. As I said, "I think there's something to it, don't you?" Obviously you do as well. Since you've checked out my profile, you can probably guess that I am fully capable of defending my family and my land. I'm also fully prepared to do so and I trust you are as well. Be well, my freeper friend. Good Night.
72 posted on 07/30/2011 10:15:44 PM PDT by smoothsailing
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 71 | View Replies]

To: smoothsailing

“I am fully capable of defending my family and my land.”

It’s going to take more than that. Our city governments are leaning towards the cash grants, our schools are corrupting our children with this “sustainable” malarkey, our governments are falling apart. Christianity is disappearing off the face of the earth seeing as it’s outlawed everywhere but inside the churches.

Take some time and learn about Agenda 21 so you recognize it when you see it no matter what it’s being called that particular day. Question your candidates for their view about it.


73 posted on 07/30/2011 10:51:58 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 72 | View Replies]

To: ansel12
I've searched to find out when the Perry family started going to Tarrytown United Methodist Church. There is the non-specific statement that they were members in the 1990s. I suspect they started attending in the late 1980s and underwent a transformational change from DemonRAT campaign manager for Al Gore to a evangelical, conservative Christian. This is only theory because there is little information about Perry's church attendance. I believe minister, Rev. Jim Mayfield was a far cry from the Rev. Jeremiah Wright. I would say, Mayfield was conservative from the comments he made about George W. Bush:

“It is obvious that he had faulty intelligence reports and that he also chose to listen to the wrong set of advisers,” and, “Yet I remain convinced he was doing the best he knew to do and that he was motivated by the intention of striving toward worldwide individual freedom and democracy.”

Finally, I mispoke in saying that Tarrytown United Methodist Church “is largely in the non-denominational, evangelical style of mega-church with power point sermons, rock band song ministry, and large screen TVs.” This is the description of Lake Hills Church, which Perry began attending in 2010. Sorry for the misinformation.

There is little I can find that describes what Tarrytown United Methodist Church was like under Rev. Jim Mayfield. I know the last time I attended a Methodist Church, they had an authentic American Indian prayer circle complete with drums and the burning of sage. However, I seriously doubt you would have seen anything like that in Mayfield’s church. In Wright's church you may have found some African drums.

Finally, I believe it was the church that transformed Rick Perry. I just don't have the confirmation that nails anything down. So, take it as theory. Sorry.

74 posted on 07/31/2011 12:23:27 AM PDT by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 53 | View Replies]

To: jonrick46
the Perry family started going to Tarrytown United Methodist Church. There is the non-specific statement that they were members in the 1990s. I suspect they started attending in the late 1980s and underwent a transformational change from DemonRAT campaign manager for Al Gore to a evangelical, conservative Christian.

LOL...there is nothing evangelical or conservative about the United Methodist Church.

75 posted on 07/31/2011 12:26:49 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (They've swindled every penny out of the living, so now they've moved on to looting posterity.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 74 | View Replies]

To: jonrick46

Interesting post.


76 posted on 07/31/2011 12:38:09 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Bristol Palin's book "Not Afraid Of Life: My Journey So Far" became a New York Times, best seller.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 74 | View Replies]

To: EternalVigilance

I agree! Once I was invited to a special service by a friend who was a Methodist missionary with Native Americans. You should have seen the faces of the Methodist congregation when a group of Native Americans engaged in a prayer circle ritual on the church’s altar.


77 posted on 07/31/2011 3:20:24 AM PDT by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 75 | View Replies]

To: B4Ranch
Take some time and learn about Agenda 21 so you recognize it when you see it no matter what it’s being called that particular day. Question your candidates for their view about it.

That's good advice for every Patriot. I've only touched on the subject with a few of my local officials in the past, but I can certainly engage them further in the future. Pardon if I don't immediately begin reading up on the subject. I'm in the middle of Demonic by Ann Coulter and once I've finished it will begin Deconstructing Obama by Jack Cashill.

Enjoyed chatting with you. Don't be surprised if we end up with a Palin/Perry Republican ticket. I maintain it will serve us well. FRegards!

78 posted on 07/31/2011 8:10:46 AM PDT by smoothsailing
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 73 | View Replies]

To: RVN Airplane Driver

My dad grew up in Speaker Sam’s district just west of Paris.


79 posted on 07/31/2011 8:36:04 AM PDT by jdub (A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]

To: freespirited

Thanks for the ping and the post freespirited.

The Houston Chronicle is what’s left for us to read after they consolidate the morning and evening papers about 20 years ago.

They try to give it away in the grocery stores — and get you to sign up for delivery.

Needless to say it is decidedly liberal.


80 posted on 07/31/2011 9:01:15 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: hellbender
It's time to bury forever this crap about Al Gore being some kind of "Southern conservative Democrat" when Rick Perry enthusiastically supported him.

It's more the perception than anything else.

In 1992, Clinton and Gore were able to carry 4 Southern states and all the old "Border states." By 2000 Gore had lost all of them.

While he wasn't a conservative Southern Democrat of the old school, he also wasn't quite what he became in later years.

Al Gore registered pro-abortion votes during the '80s.

If so, it was after he caught the presidential bug. Gore's record up to 1984 was more pro-life than pro-abortion.

I don't disagree with you guys. I just don't like how quickly everything degenerates into abuse. Can we disagree with someone like Perry and still recognize his positive qualities and achievements?

81 posted on 07/31/2011 11:32:25 AM PDT by x ("The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: jdub

What was the name of the closest little town where your Dad grew up?


82 posted on 08/01/2011 3:29:47 AM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 79 | View Replies]

To: RVN Airplane Driver

I’m not sure. The name “High” comes to mind, does that ring a bell? I looked at a map, and I remember Roxton, but that is further south. they lived along the highway there. For some reason I can’t remember the name of the little town a couple of miles away.


83 posted on 08/01/2011 5:51:02 AM PDT by jdub (A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 82 | View Replies]

To: jdub

Just looked at a google map and there is a “High” listed on old hwy 56....but there are so many little wide spots in the road scattered around that it’s hard to keep up with all of them...it now has been bypassed by Rte 82.... I live just west of Bonham.. I expect their mailing address was Honey Grove...”The sweetest little town in Texas”!


84 posted on 08/01/2011 6:42:36 AM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 83 | View Replies]

To: RVN Airplane Driver

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&tab=wl

their farm was just south of the highway and to the left of the county road.


85 posted on 08/01/2011 7:32:05 AM PDT by jdub (A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 84 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-5051-85 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson