BS I worked in Ag my whole life.
Farmers just want free labor.
Framing is the reason we face the immigration issues we do.
BS I worked in Ag my whole life.
Farmers just want free labor.
Farming is the reason we face the immigration issues we do.
It would require farmers — who have long relied on a labor force of immigrants, a majority here without legal documents —
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Not in the part of farm country I live in (Plains/Midwest). Farmers hate illegals and don’t trust them around here.
They wouldn’t be breaking the law, by hiring illegals by any chance? Just wondering.
Are there economic consequences to following the law? Maybe.
While I totally favor governmental efforts to crackdown on illegal immigration, I do not think it is the job of employers to verify the legal status of their employees. You should be able to hire people without asking the DHS whether it is OK or not.
““This would be an emergency, a dire, dire situation,” said Nancy Foster, president of the U.S. Apple Association,..”
I am not sympathetic.
Truck farmers and orchardists hire illegals on a temporary seasonal or need basis, then let them go. These illegal aliens then are not working year round and the public, in the end, has to pick up the welfare costs.
There is a solution. Asparagus growers despaired of ever getting in their crops without illegal alien workers, and then an invention which allowed the harvesting of asparagus appeared, saving their businesses.
It can be done, and for the sake of the rest of the nation, it must be done.
How about the GOVERNMENT certifies the LEGALITY of ANYONE here FIRST!!!??? You don’t have the right (according to the gov’t) to work here? No job...THEN, if they are hired, you could go after the employers...
I expect the farmers to threaten us with, “You can pick your own damn peas!”, the way things are going in this country these days. There’s definitely too much whining going on our there.
So the farmers are openly admitting they hire illegal immigrants and taking subsidies on top of that.
As a non-farmer, I’ve still got to call BS here. I can see farmers worrying about partial enforcement, because then their less ethical neighbors using illegals will have a pricing advantage. But why would they gripe over real enforcement? If the price of lettuce goes up, so be it—the price of a lot of other things, like healthcare and taxes to cover education and incarceration would be going down. The farm products would still be sold, and the farmers wouldn’t be hurt.
As a non-farmer, I’ve still got to call BS here. I can see farmers worrying about partial enforcement, because then their less ethical neighbors using illegals will have a pricing advantage. But why would they gripe over real enforcement? If the price of lettuce goes up, so be it—the price of a lot of other things, like healthcare and taxes to cover education and incarceration would be going down. The farm products would still be sold, and the farmers wouldn’t be hurt.
Maybe I’m missing the factor of international competition... like from Mexican farms... but I don’t think that’s a major factor.
Well IF these farmers are now knowingly accepting false SS# and ID that means they are paying minimum wage.
Kinda makea a lie out of the “ working for low wages” whine they use.
there is a visa allowing an UNLIMITED number of LEGAL immigrants to come to USA to do Ag work
This is all BS
There wouldn’t be an immigration problem if we eliminated the minimum wage and welfare. The farmers would find all the cheap labor they need. If they don’t pick, they don’t get paid.
Dumb-ass city slickers will believe anything. Ask rather how Al Franken got elected in Minn, Conrad and that other moron in N Dakota, Tom Harkin in Iowa, Tom D'asshole for years in S Dakota, Dick Turban in Illinois, Sherrod Brown in Ohio. The list goes on. Farmers are the most collectivist demographic in America and always have been. Stupid NYawkers.
Let the farmers use their subsidy money to pay for the subsidized wages taxpayers put out for their cheap labor. Open borders aren’t the answer to our agricultural problems.
Mexico needs its citizens at home to fight the revolution.
This is from the NYTimes.
Lies from front to end.
If this bill would mean that Korean apples would become “cheaper” than SOME, SOME American farmer’s apples, what is the difference to the pocket-book of he who buys Apples? Zero or better than zero.
As George Washington once said, with respect to trade, and I’ll paraphrase it:
If a producer in another country can do it cheaper than a producer in our country, it is not to our long-term advantage to prop-up our producer for that item. The money a buyer will save buying the item is money the buyer will spend somewhere else here.
The entire infrastructure of illegal immigration is an infrastructure propping up economic inefficiency.
If immigration is needed for temporary work, it must still be LEGAL immigration, it MUST BE temporary, it MUST NOT include family, it MUST BE verifiable.
If that is not good enough for SOME farmers then they need to develop new business models and update themselves to newer harvesting processes.
No, we do not have to accept illegal immigration just to suit “the farmers” and we don’t have to accept unlimited legal immigration either.
The kinds of people and businesses we need for this economy to grow are businesses and people that employ the better educated and higher skilled people, skilled people who are here and skilled people of the world who could come here, for work that needed them HERE.
We do not need MORE low-wage-immigrant demanding businesses here. We do not need to support businesses models that depend on more low-wage immigrants here.
The farmers are unhappy because they know it will work. Period.
Imagine if there were no minimum wage.
Citizens who are willing to work for lower wages would do these jobs.
Illegal aliens would have no special value to farmers.
We would reduce unemployment.
Read Thomas Sowell...