see post #42
All obama, and the dem leaders, wanted was to get this past the 2012 election. The gop could have had anything they wanted a long time ago if they’d let him have that. All the other stuff by Reid is smoke and mirrors.
This White House assertion smells of Axelsleazy astroturfing.
So. They still would have to own cuts to social programs. They cannot put this around the GOP’s neck in 2012.
For some folks here, it’s never a time to draw a line in the sand.
It’s always the next deal, the next election or the next decade.
Those who say wait until we get a majority in the senate, don’t have a very long memory.
We had a majority in the senate not too long ago. The McCains, Grahams, Snowe’s, The Collins, The Murlkowki’s, The Castles’ clogged up the whole stinking place. What gives them confidence that the 14 gangsters and the 6 gangsters( For a total of 20 gangsters) won’t clusterf it again?