But that isn’t what you said over on this thread, n00b (7-10-2011), where I expressed concern for advocating such a position on a pro-family site:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2756400/posts?page=18#18
To: RecoveringPaulisto
Just more proof that Government should get out of the marriage business altogether. You legitimize things by officially recognizing them - so don’t recognize any of them.
18 posted on Saturday, July 30, 2011 7:32:19 PM by FromTheSidelines (”everything that deceives, also enchants” - Plato)
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To: RecoveringPaulisto
Most legal systems in history have recognized slavery and polygamy, too...
I’d be interested to hear the negative consequences of not legally recognizing marriage at all. Is it the breakdown of the family? Fatherless households? Out-of-wedlock children? All those things we have now - with our legally recognized marriage?
22 posted on Saturday, July 30, 2011 7:55:06 PM by FromTheSidelines (”everything that deceives, also enchants” - Plato)
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I am a supporter of getting Government out of the marriage business, since we’re at the situation where Government either recognizes - and thus legitimizes - gay marriage, or just drops recognition altogether. 25 posted on Saturday, July 30, 2011 8:16:54 PM by FromTheSidelines (”everything that deceives, also enchants” - Plato)
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I have no problem keeping the gays out of my religion, that does not mean that we should abolish the LEGAL entity of marriage.
So because I believe Government should keep its nose out of the sacrament of marriage (look where Government involvement has gotten us already), then I must support gay marriage and the destruction of marriage?
Do you support Government dictate regarding prayer? If not, then you support destruction of prayer and support for satanic sacrifice.
Wanting Government OUT of something that was set up by God and given as a sacrament is NOT the same thing as wanting to see the opposite flourish and succeed; it is trying to keep Caesar doing what is Caesar’s, and God in charge of what is God’s.
I have been quite explicit in stating I want Government out of marriage; we see what Government involved in marriage has wrought (the breakdown of the family, out-of-wedlock births, gay marriage) and as a result the holiness and respect for the institution as a whole has been lowered. We can try to fight to put the genie back in the bottle, or simply take the bottle away from Government in the first place.
Government has NO RIGHT to tell me that my marriage is only acceptable and real because they issued a piece of paper to me; it was made real and holy when I pledged in a Church to God and those fellow believers gathered. I don’t need a Government to bless and condone what I do with God and the Church.