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America is merely wounded, Europe risks death
The Telegraph ^ | 8/1/2011 | Ambrose Evans-Pritchard

Posted on 07/31/2011 8:57:27 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

We have a glimmer of hope. The key indicators of the US money supply are at last firing on all cylinders, a dramatic turn for the better that would normally signal recovery or even a mini-boom within the next six to 12 months.


EU has brought about the first sovereign default in Western Europe since the Second World War and set a fateful precedent without actually resolving the Greek problem. <>

Needless to say, these are not normal times. The US and EU debt crises are feeding on each other in a dangerous synergy, with fears of a fiscal “sudden stop” in Washington causing global risk aversion and aggravating tremors in the Spanish and Italian bond markets. It is a pre-taste of the “catastrophe” predicted by the Fed’s Ben Bernanke if politicians fail to control their passions.

And yet, data from the St Louis Fed show that America’s M2 money supply grew at a 6.4pc annual rate in the second quarter, accelerating to 12.2pc in June. The compound annual rate of change has exceeded 40pc over recent weeks.

The broader M3 indicator (including large savings deposits) is growing at the optimal rate of around 5pc. It has been an uncannily accurate lead indicator at each twist and turn of our economic drama over the past five years, and is telling us now that the Fed’s kindling wood has at last begun to ignite the damp coals of the US financial system. There is no longer a 1930s liquidity trap. We can infer that the housing market may be nearing the end of its deep slump.

The economy is curing itself in time-honoured fashion. Whether this monetary cure will be allowed to run its course depends on politicians in Washington, Berlin, Rome and Madrid

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 07/31/2011 8:57:33 PM PDT by bruinbirdman
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To: bruinbirdman

Normally I love this writer, but....I think here he’s being too positive.

His book about Bill Clinton is dark as heck, and a shocking page-turner.


2 posted on 07/31/2011 9:01:50 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: bruinbirdman

>>The key indicators of the US money supply are at last firing on all cylinders<<

Baloney. I’m beginning to think they actually think they can speak it into existence.


3 posted on 07/31/2011 9:02:36 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: bruinbirdman

Pollyanna.
Rose colored glasses.
Whistling past the graveyard.


4 posted on 07/31/2011 9:03:09 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: bruinbirdman

bump.


5 posted on 07/31/2011 9:08:45 PM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: bruinbirdman
He's right about Western Europe (Euro) being in a lot worse shape than the US in terms of a deflationary spiral.

This is solely for the reason that the US has been deficit spending to the tune of $1.6 to $2 trillion dollars annually for the past three years.

The Eurozone cannot deficit spend to that degree due to their structure as separate sovereign nations.

The US has chosen the path of hoping to deficit spend in enormous amounts until the international banks take their boots off our throats (historically about another seven years).

If deficit spending to that degree stops then we instantly enter into a very large deflationary depression.

Instead, the politicians have decided to kick the can down the road and destroy the economic future of generations untold.

6 posted on 07/31/2011 9:14:36 PM PDT by politicket (1 1/2 million attended Obama's coronation - only 14 missed work!)
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To: bruinbirdman
The economy is curing itself in time-honoured fashion.

The economy may be growing, albeit very, very slowly -- not enough to keep pace with population growth, but its growth is limited by fiscal policy. Bernanke got this correct, at least partially.

7 posted on 07/31/2011 9:19:48 PM PDT by mlocher (Is it time to cash in before I am taxed out?)
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To: gaijin

I hadn’t heard about that book. I’m sure it was “dark”.


8 posted on 07/31/2011 9:21:53 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: bruinbirdman
I keep hearing, "we're the greatest, we're only wounded"...

It'll get better, just wait an see.

I don't see it. I see a broke, extremely divided country, most left with nothing but contempt for those in D.C. and at most local government levels.

I'll go down swinging. Yep. But the fact is, confidence is all but lost, in regards to anything improving by traditional methods.

Government continues to grows, spends more, more controlling...As most have lost all confidence and trust.

Those with Pollyanna comments, don't bother.

9 posted on 07/31/2011 9:45:26 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: RobRoy

I’m not buying it either.


10 posted on 07/31/2011 9:50:37 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: bruinbirdman
We can infer that the housing market may be nearing the end of its deep slump.

Really? This guy is joking right? I guess he hasn't noticed the 10 years worth of inventory on the market and all the foreclosures still going through.

11 posted on 07/31/2011 9:54:08 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: RobRoy

Baloney. I’m beginning to think they actually think they can speak it into existence.

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The smart ones are trying to buy time to get their own bunkers in order. The dullards are trying to reassure themselves.


12 posted on 07/31/2011 10:10:14 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: familyop; Psalm 144
Note AEP's final phrase of this piece, ". . . buy a shotgun and prepare for 1932."

yitbos

13 posted on 07/31/2011 10:45:07 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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I read the whole piece. Wow. Maybe the author should add another hyphenation to his name: Ambrose Evans-Pritchard-Lenin, perhaps? The politicos’ escalation of the debt regime will render possibilities of the future dark and murky, indeed.

The further it goes, the more radical that dangerous reorganizations of various kinds will be. It was also noticeable that Evans-Pritchard appears to dislike the more productive EU members for refusing to go down with favorite southern European vacation hosts.


14 posted on 08/01/2011 1:26:58 AM PDT by familyop (Rome was sacked in a day--twice.)
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To: dragnet2
Honestly, we have two distinctly different visions of America represented in our liberals and conservatives. Visions of America that are fundamentally opposed to each other. And this cannot be glossed over anymore.

We ought to think about transforming America into a federation of two superstates. One conservative and the other liberal. Each superstate would follow the Constitution as they saw fit, in essence two separate federal governments, each running their own domestic programs and paying their own taxes. And, in fact, there probably would not even need to be a physical separation between the two “superstates”. Just require each resident of America to determine which side they chose, which would then be marked on a driver's license or voter registration card. Of which, that would determine what set of rules you live by, how much tax you pay, and how many benefits you receive from the government.

And in Washington, all they'd do is foreign affairs and defense. With the caveat that each ‘superstate’ would have to pony up the same amount of cash. That way the liberal superstate could not renege on it's defense obligations.

As for the average Joe, he'd finally get to live in a manner he prefers, with a government he recognizes as sane and sound.

15 posted on 08/01/2011 2:00:40 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: bruinbirdman
China hides its debt problem better than the US or EU. Japan still hasn't resolved its debt problem. This is worldwide. The potential for worldwide collapse is high.

The only way out is free market economics. That is where the good ol' US of A has an advantage over everyone else. It's in our DNA.

Clear out all the government overgrowth, make path for economic growth and stand out of the way.

There will be horrific violence in a big part of the world.

16 posted on 08/01/2011 5:37:19 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: familyop
"Maybe the author should add another hyphenation to his name: Ambrose Evans-Pritchard-Lenin, perhaps?"

Well, one has to have been a follower of AEP for a while to understand his perspective.

He is a true capitalist. However, in his reporting/commentary, he tells it like it is.

For instance he says that, if the EUSSR is to stave off the immediate calamity, Germany is going to have to fund the bailouts and donate a huge stimulus to the cause. Austerity for a depressed/collapsed economy does not fix it. This is not an endorsement but an opinion. He also reports that EUSSR/ECB has failed so far with regards to the current PIIGS situation.

He has been saying all along that if the socialists want to prolong their experiment, they will have to step up with real asset distribution. He says 2-3 trillion euros is not enough. It's a start.

As for the U.S.A., he's a fiscal conservative who prefers gradual cuts while maintaining slow growth.

So, the guy says to Europe, if you want a united socialism, you better start sharing the wealth. That is a slam not an admission that socialism works. He believes EUSSR fiscal unity is doomed.

In the U.S. he says the Tea Party is on the right track but over time, not a crash, burn and restart.

The above is not necessarily in this article, but pretty much is a synopsis of AEPs perspective over time.

yitbos

PS - Asia was up across the board Monday as The Obammunist hoped.

Europe PIGS tanked across the board along with Germany.

17 posted on 08/01/2011 1:25:23 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

-——It’s in our DNA——

The fallacy in your thought is cancerous mutation. The DNA has mutated into cancer and is not the great body that once existed.

The leftist cancer must be removed or nuked to death.


18 posted on 08/01/2011 2:46:45 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ....Flash mobs are trickle down leftwing REDISTRIBUTION))
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To: bruinbirdman

Thanks. The irony of AEP did go over my head then. I don’t know that gradualism in cutting spending will work, though, with politicians more concerned about the desires of large, non-producing constituent groups.

I’m not referring mainly to those on subsistence benefits, but rather many of those believed to keep us physically, mentally and environmentally safe (extraneous police, regulators, social workers,...), publicly educated and so on. Bureaucrats from top to bottom receive political newsletters.


19 posted on 08/01/2011 10:24:43 PM PDT by familyop ("Plan? There ain't no plan!" --Pigkiller, "Beyond Thunderdome")
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To: familyop
"I don’t know that gradualism in cutting spending will work"

AEP says it won't work. But a gradual failure of the Eurozone will be isolated to EU. A mandated severe austerity will quickly crash not only EU but the world economy.

Perhaps a gradual weaning from socialist controls in U.S.A. is better than a politically initiated crash?

yitbos

20 posted on 08/01/2011 10:45:09 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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