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Posted on 07/31/2011 11:33:36 PM PDT by Rabin
Edited on 08/01/2011 8:38:33 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Yes.
Yes; it’s a step in the right direction.
It would go a long way toward ensuring Obama’s reelection; it would fundamentally transform the narrative from one of Obama’s economic underperformance and profligate spending to a narrative about how the Republican’s intransigence is damaging the economy and affecting the American people. Surely you can see this. The Republican Party, often spineless, actually wasn’t in this case, it just doesn’t have the numbers to achieve anything like the kind of structural reform that is needed.
Yes.
The political strategy BS as you put it, is the only way out of this hole. Without a legislative majority and a willing president, we can never make the kind of drastic changes to entitlement programs that are needed and reform the baseline budgeting process. I understand your frustration, and you’re right to suggest that the longer we wait, the larger the problem, but until we have the majorities to actually enact change, nothing can happen. The problem can be brought under control relatively rapidly with a growing economy, a freeze on automatic budget increases and changes to the increases in entitlement spending. Add some immediate spending cuts and we can get there. It’s taken decades to create this problem. We can think clearly, stay calm and work hard for the next 459 days to create a majority that can bring real reform.
Yes.
Yes.
We’ll take what we achieved in this round and live to fight another day.
You are not the only one
We could only do so much. The Speaker is not my first choice...I find him too malleable.
But we only have the House and we face a Senate with the most liberal Senators in US history in charge...Schumer/Durbin and the usual soft Republicans.
And an oddball radical President.
and a Media that 90% think the Democrats are not liberal enough.
Look how things go even when we did control things more...it’s still moderate.
Nothing big can get done without a conservative President, conservative Senate with 60 votes the SML can round up and a strong House..which we have.
So it has always been about 2012 and how much to give Obama to run on...and he didn’t get a lot.
I tell ya..getting a Senate we can work with is the problem in 2012.
I think Obama is very beatable and I think any candidate but Romney would be a vast improvement though I am not crazy on Perry...yet anyhow.
It’s just the reality.
Shutting down the govt and hurling insults for weeks until checks actually do stop flowing and you can bet Geithner would cut military and seniors first would not help us.
We still just don’t have the numbers up there..our general population power right now is stronger than our representation but we can correct that is 16 months..not long.
and the Dems are stifled for now till then....
We will destroy them next November unless we trip over our own feet
..and yes I realize we will get downgraded anyhow...only seriously reducing spending will help that
but all this posturing will make it ver difficult for any Democrat to defend themselves as spending cut folks after all this dragging just for these small cuts...they do not want to reduce the size of government..whether we can afford it is moot to them.
Try running on that next year given how all this has played out...even the stupids out there understand the govt will not manage themselves like they HAVE to and it irks them
Yep!
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