[americanophile]

Control of the House is 1/3 of the pie. The only other option is to shut down the government, terrify seniors, watch Wall Street go crazy, and generally serve our political heads to Obama on a silver platter - something that will result in our evisceration at the polls in 2012 and four more years of Obama with strengthened/newfound majorities. Not a winning strategy.

[okie01]

Control of the House is 1/3 of the pie. The only other option is to shut down the government, terrify seniors, watch Wall Street go crazy, and generally serve our political heads to Obama on a silver platter - something that will result in our evisceration at the polls in 2012 and four more years of Obama with strengthened/newfound majorities. Not a winning strategy.

I fear what this debt ceiling affair (along with the CR charade) proves is that the GOP House isn't capable of winning any battles and actually moving the ball forward.

Consequently, it might be best if we simply go on defense and concentrate on stopping everything the President and Democrat Senate try to do.

[PieterCasparzen]

Control of the House is 1/3 of the pie. The only other option is to shut down the government, terrify seniors, watch Wall Street go crazy, and generally serve our political heads to Obama on a silver platter - something that will result in our evisceration at the polls in 2012 and four more years of Obama with strengthened/newfound majorities. Not a winning strategy.

IMHO, the opposite on the political fallout. If "we" "make it through" without the government crashing into the debt ceiling, obama and all Dems will be able to do their standard operating procedure of lie, lie, lie and the whole "emergency" will fade in people's minds if the Federal government can somehow "limp" through until november 2012.

If the debt ceiling is not raised, the cash runs out.

At that point - obama has to start making choices as to who to pay and who not to pay.

Not everyone can get paid. He will make a lot of people very unhappy when they don't get paid. Hence, the general public will see a collapse happen this summer and fall. They will see checks not going out, contracts being cancelled, all kinds of bad things. obama's press conferences will go from bad to terrible.

The Repubs should simply sit cool as a cucumber, shrug and smile and say - well, elections have consequences. If Repubs had the Senate and Presidency we could hack government spending down right now, this year, for the current year, and eliminate some departments AND all their corresponding regulation on citizens and business. But we can't. The President was elected, it's up to him to make the choices of who not to pay if Congress can't agree on letting the government borrow more.

It would be a bumpy ride until 2012.

But if they "limp along" without causing ma and pa public any pain, once Repubs take office in 2013 - the Government is then at 16 to 18 trillion in debt - 8 or 9 TIMES ANNUAL REVENUE. The bubble will burst on the Repubs watch after 2013. If that debt ceiling gets increased, I pity the next President. I would drop out if I was in the race. Just imagine, with all the czars, bailouts, enormous staff increases - the list goes on and on - 2013 will be the start of an unmitigated disaster. I highly doubt that anyone will buy bonds in 2013 if they buy another trillion or two now. Because the economy will still languish and tax revenue will not move up much past 2 trillion.

[TwoSwords]

So, there would be a economical difference when we control the House, Senate and WH? The results would be smoother? The world is defined by men, not mice.

[truthfreedom]

It’s better that the tea party is pissed off and motivated to take scalps than democrats pissed off and motivated to take scalps.

[Slambat]

“The only other option is to shut down the government,”
And this will insure Obamas reelection?
But. Caving in and giving Obama a major political victory
and exposing the spineless republican party for what they
are won’t insure Obamas reelection?

[Claud]

Ok, so how’s this for a winning strategy. We kick the can down the road. We dig ourselves deeper and deeper and debt. Obama loses the next election, a Republican gets in, JUST IN TIME for the economy to REALLY collapse.

I am sick to death of this political strategy BS. If we don’t cut now, we’ll have to cut later. So what the heck is the difference? You think it’ll be easy to cut social security then? You think seniors will love it then?

It HAS to happen. Mathematically HAS TO. And the longer we wait, the worse it gets.

Forget the (@&$( strategy and do the right thing.