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To: no dems
no dems wrote:
IF THE GOP GOES ALONG WITH THIS, IT'S TIME TO FORM THE "CONSERVATIVE PARTY OF AMERICA".
Watch individual members, not the party.

The TEA Party caucus should vote against this. And any true conservatives should seriously consider voting against this.

In 2012, all "establishment Republicans" who go along with this need to be eliminated in the primaries.

Ballot access laws in most states are written to protect the establishment parties. I live in Florida. Charlie Crist (RINO) tried to run as an "Independent" last year. I thought he was washed up, but when I heard his radio add during the last 3 weeks before the election and he said, "Look for me on line 9 on your ballot," I knew he had no chance at all.

Until that changes, a "third party" is doomed. Better to reclaim and reform the Republican party.

Right now, from what I'm hearing about this deal, this will grow government. The "cuts" are from projected spending increases, not from current spending.

There are two major things wrong with this. First, spending in Fiscal Year 2012 and 2013 (the only two years which this Congress can actually control) will go up, not down. The second is pretending that this Congress can do anything about years after Fiscal Year 2013, it can't. On January of 2013, a new Congress will be sworn in, and that Congress can do anything, including reversing anything this Congress has done.

The status quo is going to be maintained for now:
Status Quo

29 posted on 08/01/2011 12:25:52 AM PDT by cc2k ( If having an "R" makes you conservative, does walking into a barn make you a horse's (_*_)?)
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To: cc2k
Yes, all the fine speeches they made during the 2010 election telling us how the Democrats were out of control ( in which was true ) and how we needed to trust them in getting spending under control and that they were going to Washington for " THE PEOPLE " BLA BLA bla bla, it was all a lie, bait and switch so we can vote for these losers again....
This group of Republicans so called working for the people are no better than the Democrats.
Tell us ? what was the main theme and point of voting them in office in 2010 ? oh, yeah, to go to Washington for " THE PEOPLE " and get spending under control, and repeal ObamaCare in which they have not done either.... liars...
34 posted on 08/01/2011 12:35:44 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: cc2k
Until that changes, a "third party" is doomed. Better to reclaim and reform the Republican party.
And if the Republicans nominate Mitt or someone just as bad in 2012? Just go with the flow again? We tried that in 2008 with McLame and where did that get us? And if Mitt should actually win? My God, that would mean 8 more years (at least) of RINOs in charge. NO, we need to draw the line in the sand now. I would rather lose with Sarah or Michelle running third party than "win" with Mitt. At least that would give us a lot stronger start to taking state houses, state legislatures, etc. if people knew we were serious. We will take the White House faster that way than if we keep supporting these milquetoast candidates.
61 posted on 08/01/2011 3:46:49 AM PDT by conservaterian (Sarah/DeMint '12)
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