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Palin: House passage of debt deal is a victory for the Tea Party
Hot Air ^ | August 2,2011 | Tina Korbe

Posted on 08/02/2011 2:19:47 PM PDT by Hojczyk

It seems to be the new talking point: The deal is a victory for conservatives not because of what it does (which is, not much!), but because it supposedly represents a change in the direction of the debate. Once, Washington discussed what to grow. Now, Washington discusses what to cut. Even former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has echoed the theme — but with qualifications. The Wall Street Journal Washington Wire reports:

Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin said Monday’s House vote to lift the debt ceiling was a victory for the tea party, proving that conservative activists had shifted the conversation in Washington.

“We shall take this victory and make sure our politicians in office today are learning from this victory,” Ms. Palin said Monday night on Fox News, where she is a paid contributor. “It’s not a 100% pure genuine victory. We just handed the most liberal president, I believe, in U.S. history a $2.4 billion debt increase.” …

Ms. Palin didn’t fully embrace the deal, saying she had plenty of problems with the compromise between the White House and congressional leaders, including Republican House Speaker John Boehner. In the past, the former governor said she was not convinced America would face a default if lawmakers did not raise the debt ceiling by Aug. 2.

Meanwhile, Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa), one of the founders of the Tea Party Caucus in Congress (along with GOP presidential candidate Rep. Michele Bachmann), says the deal can’t possibly be touted as a win.

“The Tea Party is not calling this a victory,” Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) said today on Fox News. “I’m certainly not.”

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 112th; debt; debtceiling; king; palin; palinpolicy; sarahpalin; steveking; teaparty; victory
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1 posted on 08/02/2011 2:19:50 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

” It’s not a 100% pure genuine victory. We just handed the most liberal president, I believe, in U.S. history a $2.4 billion debt increase.” … “

It is a 100% pure E P I C F A I L


2 posted on 08/02/2011 2:22:10 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Hojczyk

Oh, good grief. Are people that damned dense?


3 posted on 08/02/2011 2:22:55 PM PDT by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: Hojczyk

yes, without the tea party it would be bleaker

but i wonder what the future holds.


4 posted on 08/02/2011 2:24:03 PM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: upsdriver

Yep, afraid you are right...


5 posted on 08/02/2011 2:25:53 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: Hojczyk
Will Palin now become persona non grata at FR? Hmmmm? Will the accusations of "RINO!" now fly her way? This ought to be fun to watch.
6 posted on 08/02/2011 2:26:23 PM PDT by BfloGuy (There is no remedy for the inefficiency of public management. -- L. Von Mises)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Well think of it this way. How bad would it have been had the House been Pelosi’s. I agree it is not great and I know there are a lot of land mines in the bill. But the victory comes not in the bill it self but in the attention that was paid to the debt. It gives the Tea Party something to run on in 2012. It gives solid footing for those that want to primary out the RINOs.

Not the solid victory I would liked to have seen, but with the number of RINOs in office - well, better the devil you see than the one you dont.


7 posted on 08/02/2011 2:27:14 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Hojczyk

It’s a thousand times worse. 2.4 trillion.


8 posted on 08/02/2011 2:27:14 PM PDT by BinaryBoy (Stuck with a local RINO? Regardless of who you vote for, donate $$$ to a different district.)
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To: Hojczyk
proving that conservative activists had shifted the conversation in Washington.

Well I don't think I would classify shifting a conversation as a victory but in that respect she is right, the debt would have never been an issue if not for the TP.

We still have much work to do, don't think we have enough time though.

9 posted on 08/02/2011 2:27:30 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: Hojczyk

Bachmann voted against the Debt Ceiling, Palin sees it as a positive. How the Republican electorate ends up viewing the deal will determine which will carry the consevative wing.


10 posted on 08/02/2011 2:27:37 PM PDT by Tallguy (You can safely ignore anything that precedes the word "But"...)
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To: Hojczyk
It was no win for Conservatives today no matter how you slice/spin it..

"I got a new credit card today... naw,naw,naw,naw...
now I'm going shopping..."


11 posted on 08/02/2011 2:28:15 PM PDT by avacado
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To: Hojczyk

This is as much of a victory we can hope for in 2011. The GOP controls one half of one branch of government. Now, in 2012 and 2013 on the other hand, we can hope for much more.


12 posted on 08/02/2011 2:29:13 PM PDT by MetaThought
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To: BfloGuy
You should have seen the people last night trying to deny that Palin said this and attacking those who posted her words.

Quite amazing.

13 posted on 08/02/2011 2:29:26 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Hojczyk

It’s only a victory in that (imho) Obama and the Democrats set an artificial deadline to create a crisis so they would have an excuse to raise taxes.

The fact that the conversation was all focused on cutting spending was a victory for the tea party, a small one, but still a victory.

OTOH, the actual deal is still awful. It just raised the debt ceiling, officially added another 7 trillion dollars to the debt, and gave Obama a blank check to play with until after the election. Hardly a victory in that sense.


14 posted on 08/02/2011 2:30:11 PM PDT by Brookhaven (Herman Cain knows computers, math, missiles, banking, burgers, pizza, gospel music, & Coca-Cola)
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To: Hojczyk

In this case, Palin is wrong.


15 posted on 08/02/2011 2:30:32 PM PDT by Jemian
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To: what's up

Have a link by chance?

I missed it and would like to see it if you happen to have it.


16 posted on 08/02/2011 2:31:25 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: BfloGuy
Will Palin now become persona non grata at FR? Hmmmm? Will the accusations of "RINO!" now fly her way?

Not from me, I don't use the term "RINO" because it is a stupidly overused, ill descriptive term.

17 posted on 08/02/2011 2:31:43 PM PDT by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: Hojczyk
When the dims couldn't get Obamacare through the Senate because of the election of Brown, they got it done anyway. When Cap and Trade failed, Obama turned to imposing it through the EPA carbon regulation. Dims don't take no for answer. Moral victories that change the conversation don't seem to interest them. Like some morons in the WSJ commented to today, “this government was designed to operate slowly”. Yeah, unless you're a commie Leftist like Barry and company. Rules are rules for chumps and Republicans.
18 posted on 08/02/2011 2:32:20 PM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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19 posted on 08/02/2011 2:34:16 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: upsdriver

“Will Palin now become persona non grata at FR?”

I won’t call her a RINO, but between that comment and Bachman’s stellar performance and VOTES during this debate, I know know where my support solidly sits.


20 posted on 08/02/2011 2:34:29 PM PDT by wilco200 (11/4/08 - The Day America Jumped the Shark)
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To: Hojczyk

Cannot believe Palin said that. Sad.


21 posted on 08/02/2011 2:36:37 PM PDT by mulligan
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To: upsdriver
Meanwhile, Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa), one of the founders of the Tea Party Caucus in Congress (along with GOP presidential candidate Rep. Michele Bachmann), says the deal can’t possibly be touted as a win.

Just a side note, but Bachmann has been claiming sole credit for founding the Tea Party Caucus. But moving on, if this is a failure of the Tea Party, then by extension it is a failure of the Tea Party Caucus. In short Mrs. Bachmann failed.

22 posted on 08/02/2011 2:37:09 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (JMO but I reserve the right to be wrong...)
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To: BfloGuy

Or will those trashing the deal now embrace it?


23 posted on 08/02/2011 2:37:09 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: BfloGuy

Palin’s a RINO! Denounce her! Lol!


24 posted on 08/02/2011 2:38:17 PM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: Las Vegas Ron; what's up; Jim Robinson
"What's up", like the author of this article is misconstruing her words and the interview. If you hear the interview, it was Greta that said it would be seen as a "victory". Palin very clearly said it was a victory only in that the TEA party changed the debate and nothing more. She also dissed some of the details saying she was disgusted (my word) with us giving Obama more to spend, etc.

"What's up", you are being disingenuous here, I cut you some slack last night, and now you come on with the same slander.

25 posted on 08/02/2011 2:38:31 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

We just allowed the two houses of Congress to completely subvert the Constitution and form a Super Committee to basically overthrow the power of the individual Congressman.

I am making a serious statement here when I say I’m shocked that Sarah Palin is not screaming bloody murder. Not to mention all of the Tea Party reps. Where is the outrage?


26 posted on 08/02/2011 2:38:57 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: mulligan; All
Cannot believe Palin said that

She didn't, listen to the interview yourself instead of this author.

27 posted on 08/02/2011 2:39:39 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Uh oh. Palin just challenged you. What now? She’s also an idiot?


28 posted on 08/02/2011 2:39:53 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Bachmann has been claiming sole credit for founding the Tea Party Caucus. But moving on, if this is a failure of the Tea Party, then by extension it is a failure of the Tea Party Caucus. In short Mrs. Bachmann failed.

that is just poor logic

29 posted on 08/02/2011 2:39:53 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: BfloGuy
Will Palin now become persona non grata at FR?

I love Sarah Palin but this cult of personality has built up around her such that people project their views onto her. The bottom line is that she is not some 100% Conservative hero. She is a decent conservative with some moderate tendencies. Look at her record as governor of Alaska. Look at her statements before she was nominated to the GOP ticket. There is a reason she and Perry get along so well. They are both moderately conservative. I always think its funny when the same people who scream that Perry is an evil RINO worship the ground Palin walks on. Having said all that, I still like her and this doesn't change my opinion of her. But I probably had a more realistic view of her than some of her supporters.

30 posted on 08/02/2011 2:40:36 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Jemian

West too, I presume?


31 posted on 08/02/2011 2:41:07 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: Retired Greyhound

Failure of leadership.


32 posted on 08/02/2011 2:41:52 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (JMO but I reserve the right to be wrong...)
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To: taxcontrol

I’m glad ot see you see the benefits of this; second, you can’t have it all in anything and frankly we got something out of this. Something was hammered out and then in 2012 Obama will be wiped out and then we will be all set, no? I’m for one glad that we got what we got. Everyone now has faced taht we have a horrific level of debt and everyone in the US is fired up to do something about it. We have fully faced as a nation that we have a problem that can no longer be ignored. Like alcoholics, we are at long last facing our problems, facing that WE are the source of them and no one else.


33 posted on 08/02/2011 2:42:37 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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As usual Palin get it others do not.


34 posted on 08/02/2011 2:42:59 PM PDT by Leto
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To: Hojczyk

it’s MRS. assholes


35 posted on 08/02/2011 2:44:12 PM PDT by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now, and in the future)
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To: Hojczyk

I did not see the interview live so I just went back and watched it on Youtube. She did say that but taken alone it sounds bad. If you go and watch the whole interview you will see she thinks it’s a bad deal just as we do and only thinks the tea party was a winner because they changed the whole debate. Nice try though.


36 posted on 08/02/2011 2:45:00 PM PDT by carjic (I've always been taught to respect my elders.... but it's getting harder to find any!)
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To: BinaryBoy
It’s a thousand times worse. 2.4 trillion.

Normally, debt limits are simply raised. This time there are fiscal restraints attached. Which would you prefer? Because the debt limit was going to be raised regardless.

I keep saying we are an election away from being able to accomplish what we want to do. Let's get crackin'.

37 posted on 08/02/2011 2:45:42 PM PDT by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: MetaThought
This is as much of a victory we can hope for in 2011. The GOP controls one half of one branch of government. Now, in 2012 and 2013 on the other hand, we can hope for much more.

Amen

38 posted on 08/02/2011 2:47:01 PM PDT by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: taxcontrol
It gives the Tea Party something to run on in 2012. It gives solid footing for those that want to primary out the RINOs.

Think of the possible "sound bites"........

39 posted on 08/02/2011 2:48:29 PM PDT by clove (God, Family and Country, the truth will live!)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
"The bottom line is that she is not some 100% Conservative hero. She is a decent conservative with some moderate tendencies. "

Yup. More conservative than Bush, Romney or Pawlenty. Less than De Mint, Bachmann or Cain.

40 posted on 08/02/2011 2:48:35 PM PDT by cookcounty (Nullius in Verba. "Take no man's word for it.")
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To: Lakeshark; what's up; Jim Robinson
Palin very clearly said it was a victory only in that the TEA party changed the debate and nothing more.

Thanks for clearing that up, I agree with that as evidenced by my previous post.

What I don't understand is the deliberate attempts to bash Palin here. While I do not share the enthusiasm that many do here for her I am certainly not a detractor nor would I deliberately bash her (as many here seem bent on doing). In fact, I have defended her several time here from unfair and misguided attacks.

We have a Country to save, we best get with it and do it or else it is all moot and for naught.

Bashing and eating our own simply serve no purpose.

41 posted on 08/02/2011 2:48:49 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: upsdriver

Sadly I think you are correct


42 posted on 08/02/2011 2:49:06 PM PDT by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: what's up

It is quite amazing, Again you are wrong. Palin was responding to Greta V’s statement that it was a victory for the TEA party. Palin used the word victory in response to Greta and then Palin qualified that Greta’s “victory” was not a victory in her mind!

Give it up!


43 posted on 08/02/2011 2:50:28 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: gov_bean_ counter; wilco200

I like both Bachmann and Palin so I won’t go against either. Palin is the best choice for president, she has the proper credentials. Bachmann should run again for congress and use her exposure as a presidential candidate to get into a leadership position in the House. That’s where her strength lies.


44 posted on 08/02/2011 2:52:43 PM PDT by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: Tallguy; csense

Palin does not see it as a victory. Csense explains it so that even people with PDS can understand:

“... She wasn’t referring to the substance of the bill as a victory, she was merely agreeing with Greta, when Greta said: The Tea Party had an enormous victory because they did change the discussion here in Washington, and it is a little bit like trying to change the direction of an aircraft carrier, it’s not easy

Sarah then went on to explain why the content isn’t a victory and summarized by saying: Yes this is a victory because tea party patriots did shift the debate...

She’s not abrogating her principles and what she said was exactly correct.”

The above stolen without permission from csense. - Thanks, free me


45 posted on 08/02/2011 2:53:58 PM PDT by free me (Sarah Palin 2012 - GAME ON!!)
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To: upsdriver
I keep saying we are an election away from being able to accomplish what we want to do. Let's get crackin'.

Bumpiddy bump bump bump....To the top!

46 posted on 08/02/2011 2:54:18 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: upsdriver
Bachmann should run again for congress and use her exposure as a presidential candidate to get into a leadership position in the House. That’s where her strength lies.

If Bachmann had been in Boehner's position do you think she could have carried this through with better results?

47 posted on 08/02/2011 2:55:15 PM PDT by clove (God, Family and Country, the truth will live!)
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To: what's up

You Jim Robinson? Yes, quite amazing. Don’t forget to mention what a great victory YOU think this bill is.

Palin does not see it as a victory. Csense explains it so that even people with PDS can understand:

“... She wasn’t referring to the substance of the bill as a victory, she was merely agreeing with Greta, when Greta said: The Tea Party had an enormous victory because they did change the discussion here in Washington, and it is a little bit like trying to change the direction of an aircraft carrier, it’s not easy

Sarah then went on to explain why the content isn’t a victory and summarized by saying: Yes this is a victory because tea party patriots did shift the debate...

She’s not abrogating her principles and what she said was exactly correct.”

The above stolen without permission from csense. - Thanks, free me


48 posted on 08/02/2011 2:55:48 PM PDT by free me (Sarah Palin 2012 - GAME ON!!)
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To: Hojczyk

Yes, the “Tea Party” got their defense cuts.... Hooray!!


49 posted on 08/02/2011 2:56:21 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (I said it, I meant it and I represent it.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Bump to your post, money quote: We have a Country to save, we best get with it and do it or else it is all moot and for naught. Your attitude is appreciated. I can understand if she might not be someone's favorite candidate, but the bashing by unfair attacks like this article is totally senseless.
50 posted on 08/02/2011 2:57:55 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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