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Here's The Problem With This Market Crash... (The only thing which will fix our economy)
Business Insider ^ | 4 August 2011 | Henry Blodget

Posted on 08/05/2011 7:52:34 AM PDT by Notary Sojac

Well, it's deja vu all over again.

But there are also several very important differences between this market crash and the ones a few years ago:

The Fed has fired most of its bullets (interest rates are already at zero) Our budget deficit is already out of control, and Congress has had it with "stimulus" The public has had it with bailouts

That means the government's ability to do anything about this market crash is severely limited.

Yes, we'll almost certainly have a "QE3." And maybe that will prop things up a bit. But it won't fix the fundamental problems clogging the economy, just as QE1 and QE2 didn't permanently fix anything. (The only thing that will fix our economy is debt-reduction, discipline, and time.)

In 2007, when the market began to crack, the Fed Funds rate was 5.25%. The Fed immediately began cutting rates and eventually took them all the way down to 0.25%. Where they have been as long as anyone can remember. And where they still are today, just as the market is beginning to crash again.

In short, it IS different this time. And not in a good way.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: crash; economy; market
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Here's the key takeaway from the article: "The only thing that will fix our economy is debt-reduction, discipline, and time."

Attention Freepers: The only thing that will fix our economy is debt-reduction, discipline, and time.

Attention Herman Cain, Michelle Bachmann, Sarah Palin, Tim Pawlenty, Rick Perry: The only thing that will fix our economy is debt-reduction, discipline, and time.

Promising anything else is a delusion and a lie to the American people.

1 posted on 08/05/2011 7:52:38 AM PDT by Notary Sojac
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To: Notary Sojac

http://youtu.be/W4hfdaC7eL4


2 posted on 08/05/2011 7:56:56 AM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November (2012) from my house.)
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To: Notary Sojac
Good points.

But I would also add "massive de-regulation". It wouldn't cost a penny and it would grow the economy, get people back to work, and boost tax revenue. Just stop prosecuting people for breaking useless rules. Take existing court cases and toss them away.

Currently, you can't open a lemonade stand or sell raw milk. The government just needs to shut down its regulatory arm and watch people beef up the economic activity.

3 posted on 08/05/2011 7:57:16 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: Notary Sojac

yes.


4 posted on 08/05/2011 7:58:16 AM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: Notary Sojac

Herman Cain, Michelle Bachmann, Sarah Palin, Tim Pawlenty, Rick Perry, let me add one more....Allen West. If we want a Super Committee, these are the people that need to be on it.


5 posted on 08/05/2011 7:58:25 AM PDT by RC2
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To: Notary Sojac

Two things are needed above and beyond all else to fix the economy: the breakup of the failed European Union, and Obama out of office.


6 posted on 08/05/2011 7:59:10 AM PDT by jpl
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To: Notary Sojac

A half-assed QE-3 should be just enough to delay the big collapse until Nov. 7 2012.


7 posted on 08/05/2011 7:59:29 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The more effeminate & debauched the people, the more they are fitted for a tyrannical government.)
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To: Notary Sojac

C’mon, promising to replace marxo-muslim Obama is a delusion?

Replacing him and his ilk with traditional American outlook will solve the problem FAST!


8 posted on 08/05/2011 8:01:38 AM PDT by himno hero
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To: Notary Sojac

Here’s what the Democrats believe:

If you’re drunk, to get sober, drink more...

If the boat’s leaking, drill more holes in the bottom to let the water out quicker...

If your credit card maxes out, get the credit card company to increase your credit limit...

There are plenty of bullets available to the government to make this situation MUCH better. Problem is, nobody’s got a spine(except for Tea Party members of Congress).


9 posted on 08/05/2011 8:02:26 AM PDT by RexBeach (Mr. Obama can't count.)
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To: Notary Sojac
Don't expect any help from a QE3 if it happens. The economy is in a classic Liquidity Trap and Fed policy is totally ineffective. The only way out is fiscal policy. The problem is, however, that fiscal policy under Obozo is completely misdirected. He plays the class envy card saying that the rich "need to pay their fair share". Really? The top 10% of the income distribution currently foot almost 70% of federal income tax receipts. Raising taxes is exactly the wrong thing to do.

If you cut both personal and corporate income taxes and make them permanent for at least five years, this economy will start to recover. Businesses hate uncertainty and trying to guess what a political leader will do when he has no clue about economics is what is forcing business to hoard cash. They are minimizing their risk by avoiding hiring more people. However, cut corporate and personal income taxes, and people will start spending some of that additonal takehome pay on goods and services. As demand goes up, more inputs to the production process are needed...including labor. As new hires come on line, more demand and more taxes collected, thus nibbling into the deficit.

This is not rocket science. If you truly want to fix this economy, the proper steps are easily done. However, if you have a Socialist agenda poffered by a leader who is clueless about the proper steps, the current economic mess comes as no surprise.

10 posted on 08/05/2011 8:03:22 AM PDT by econjack (Some people are dumber than soup.)
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>>That means the government’s ability to do anything about this market crash is severely limited.<<

The fact that “what the govt. can do” issue comes first means we’ve lost the war.


11 posted on 08/05/2011 8:03:44 AM PDT by 1L
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To: Iron Munro

A half-assed QE-3 should be just enough to delay the big collapse until Nov. 7 2012.


BINGO!


12 posted on 08/05/2011 8:06:38 AM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: ClearCase_guy
You are not going to get de-regulation with the Marxist regime in charge. Nor will you get any budget cuts,thats how they get reelected.

It should not come as a shock to anyone that when Moodys and Standard & Poors says they want 4 trillion in cuts or 400 billion per year and they get next to nothing in year one that the market crashes.

Not everyone is brain dead.

The sad yet predictable thing is that the DBM won't say anything bout how we need much more in budget cuts than we got.

13 posted on 08/05/2011 8:07:57 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Notary Sojac
Attention Herman Cain, Michelle Bachmann, Sarah Palin, Tim Pawlenty, Rick Perry: The only thing that will fix our economy is debt-reduction, discipline, and time.

No, he missed one. You can do the above 3 and still get a stagnant economy unless the high price of energy is addressed.

14 posted on 08/05/2011 8:09:11 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving politicians more tax money is like giving addicts free drugs to cure their addiction)
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To: himno hero
Replacing him and his ilk with traditional American outlook will solve the problem FAST!

Replacing them is only the first step on a long hard road of public/private deleveraging and weaning Americans (many of whom think of themselves as conservatives) off the entitlements teat.

We need political leaders who can talk blood, toil, tears and sweat here.

15 posted on 08/05/2011 8:09:14 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Mi tio es enfermo, pero la carretera es verde!)
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To: econjack

Sounds like you are talking about chaos,high on the marxist list.


16 posted on 08/05/2011 8:09:48 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Notary Sojac

WRONG! Debt reduction, discipline, and time will NOT, by themselves, fix the economy. We need to remove the impediments to growth: dismantle EPA; cut capital gains and corporate income taxes; encourage energy production, including nuclear power; expand foreign trade; eliminate the minimum wage; tame the litigation monster; end don’t-build-anything-anywhere zoning policies; eliminate requirements to hire expensive union labor; repeal needless (keep-out-the-competition) occupational licensing policies; deregulate the provision of insurance (especially health insurance); and I’m sure readers can think of many more. Cutting the budget alone, without economic growth, is a formula for losing elections and will lead only to a balanced budget at a poverty level of income.


17 posted on 08/05/2011 8:11:19 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (Socon-Econ)
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To: econjack

Yes, we need growth. But we cannot grow our way out of the entitlements hole. They must be cut by 25% or more.


18 posted on 08/05/2011 8:11:21 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Nothing will cure the economy but debt deleveraging, deregulation, and time.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I’ll add one more - failures have to be allowed to fail. The deadwood needs cleared periodically.


19 posted on 08/05/2011 8:11:23 AM PDT by reed13
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To: econjack
If you cut both personal and corporate income taxes and make them permanent for at least five years, this economy will start to recove

You also need to address the high price of energy. That has a fundamental drag on the economy that cannot be overcome simply by changing fiscal policy.

20 posted on 08/05/2011 8:11:25 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving politicians more tax money is like giving addicts free drugs to cure their addiction)
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