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Self | August 8 2011 | Milan Moravec

Posted on 08/07/2011 3:07:39 PM PDT by Moravecglobal

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To: Minus_The_Bear; All

That’s because too many people graduate with useless degrees in:

* Sociology = Psychopath
* Psychology = TOTAL psychopath
* Womens Studies = Bulldyke or TOTAL bitch
* Queer Studies self-explanatory
* African American Studies White-hating knome like Obama


21 posted on 08/07/2011 5:27:06 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: BobL

A simple online test would filter out the bad from the good, regardless of degree or lack there of.

I agree. It’s a sick country...


22 posted on 08/07/2011 5:37:01 PM PDT by CommieCutter (Promote Liberal Extinction: Support gay marriage and abortion!)
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To: CommieCutter

“A simple online test would filter out the bad from the good, regardless of degree or lack there of.”

Agree...but illegal. The Supreme Court, in all their wisdom outlawed that option in the 1970s. So we’re stuck with degrees as the screening process.


23 posted on 08/07/2011 5:40:18 PM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: businessprofessor

A college degree in business is a good primer for the business world. I’m not so sure other degreeS aren’t more or less worthless, or even detrimental to a healthy and productive life. Most professors are obtuse leftists, and this held true way back to the 1970’s. Both of my paqrents were full professors : )


24 posted on 08/07/2011 5:40:58 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: BobL
The reason for requiring degrees is that colleges still have (some) standards,

Why corporations can't test applicants in lieu of a degree.

Griggs vs. Duke Power Co.

25 posted on 08/07/2011 5:44:03 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: BobL

WOW. I never knew that.


26 posted on 08/07/2011 5:44:49 PM PDT by CommieCutter (Promote Liberal Extinction: Support gay marriage and abortion!)
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To: businessprofessor

I’m on a odd keyboard....pardon the typos : )


27 posted on 08/07/2011 5:44:52 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Gen.Blather
If you need a mechanical engineer, the fact that candidate A, with no degree builds hotrods makes him infinitely better than candidate B who got straight A’s in engineering shchool and has no outside interest in mechanical stuff.

Quite frankly if you actually believe that you are an idiot.

28 posted on 08/07/2011 5:46:28 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: CommieCutter

“WOW. I never knew that.”

Yea, life would be much simpler if Congress stuck to writing laws, and the courts stuck to interpreting them. But I guess that’s too much to ask.


29 posted on 08/07/2011 5:47:13 PM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: Gen.Blather
I interviewed EE’s with straight A’s from FAMU. One, I finally asked, “can you tell me what V=IR means?”

Sounds like BS to me. Couldn't hack engineering in school? Had to switch majors? Now you go online and trash them? I know your type, you are dangerous.

I have a degree in EE. If you had asked me such a silly basic question like what does v=ir means during an interview I would have walked out thinking what an idiotic thing to ask an EE. Insulting. I couldn't work in a place like that.

30 posted on 08/07/2011 5:53:29 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: CommieCutter

Google Griggs vs. Duke Power Co.


31 posted on 08/07/2011 5:54:36 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Gen.Blather

“Another straight A engineer was having problems with his car battery, so I told him how to troubleshoot it. Turns out, he had no idea how an alternator worked.”

I’ve known plenty of dysfunctional engineers, I’ve known plenty of incompetent technicians, I’ve even met fraudulent air conditioning mechanics. I knew an auto repair guy who couldn’t find the business end of a spark plug if you made him a map.

So what.

If you have a degree in engineering from an accredited school, chances are you can function in an engineering environment. Not a guarantee, but it’s pretty likely.

Like anything, you have to know what you are doing when you are hiring people - and focus on how much money they can make YOU, as well as how much you pay them.

But for you to assert as you are that an engineering degree is an impediment to skilled, professional, well-compensated employment - because you knew an idiot engineer or two - then I’ll take that argument. It is simply not defensible.

There are plenty of non-degreed successful people, but that is not the path to success; planning to not get a degree. It’s like telling your kid that they should count on a million dollar payday from the NBA. It’s idiocy.

It also smacks of base jealousy. If it’s so easy - then go to night school and get your engineering degree - anyone should be able to do it, right? I mean you can do it and keep a high-paying, secure, non-degreed day job, right?

Maybe the wannabe engineer techs will rethink their jealousy when they get a load of the hours a committed professional engineer puts in to make projects go. You may not see the work - you’re gone at 5 - chances are you don’t even understand it because the hard part is done for you by the time you get it. You mistake it for being “easy” because you can do it after someone did the hard work for you.

Nope, not buying it.


32 posted on 08/07/2011 6:19:31 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Niuhuru

“When I was twenty-two and trying to get a receptionist/secretary job, I kept seeing the requirement for a freaking degree and several years of experience, it was shocking and discouraging”

Why didn’t you just get your degree? I mean, it’s a trivial undertaking, as underscored by others on this thread. It’s meaningless - and therefore easy, and you could have gotten that secretarial/receptionist job with no problem. Maybe you’d even have a thriving business - and maybe we’d be relieved of paying you SSD.

Or maybe it’s just easier to complain how smart and qualified you are and keep cashing the government welfare check. That’s it, isn’t it?


33 posted on 08/07/2011 6:32:26 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: central_va

“Sounds like BS to me.”

Thank you.......


34 posted on 08/07/2011 6:34:23 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer

Asking a EE what is Ohms Law would be like asking a doctor “Do you know what blood is?”


35 posted on 08/07/2011 6:44:56 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: RFEngineer
On this topic, you might want to check out the Nat'l Inflation Ass'n youtube vid titled, "College Conspiracy." Extremely thought-provoking.

It's not just bitter folks w/out college degrees complaining because they lost jobs to folks w/ degrees...there was a professor out of Columbia (you know, the prestigous university that Obambi couldn't remember attending because he was in a coke-daze in the alley or whatever he did instead of attend classes...but I digress) who wrote a book (I don't know the title, as I was listening to a radio interview of the fellow) about the education bubble.

He was much kinder to his fellow academicians, blaming the bubble on their purist, ivory tower tendencies shielding them to market realities...nevertheless, he predicted a market crash in education, foreign purchasing of colleges and universities, all sorts of goodies. Heck, those foreign interests need somewhere to park all those zillions of american dollars, now don't they?

If you want to see a gem of a documentary about the public school system - done by a LEFTY - see Waiting for Superman. Fabulous, tragic, and informative in ways I'm certain the director did not intend.

I get no royalties for recommending these things, but I do appreciate when folks point me to interesting info.

36 posted on 08/07/2011 7:44:18 PM PDT by elk
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To: CommieCutter
Well, you know, the retail establishments I've gone to in the past year are teeming with college graduates in all positions, not to mention wait-staff in restaurants, etc.

Majorly experienced tradesmen hanging in there at the lowe's and home depot because there's no building, no work.

The only teens I know with summer jobs either had a connection to exploit, or had to literally travel 100's of miles and live with relatives to find a summer job.

I'm not making this up.

Hope and Change, folks.

37 posted on 08/07/2011 7:48:34 PM PDT by elk
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To: elk

“Extremely thought-provoking.”

I am paying two college tuitions right now. I know it’s a rip-off for the majority of kids - they will never pay back any loans they get.

The solution is to allow student loans to be once again dischargeable in bankruptcy - the aftermath of that will force reality on academia.


38 posted on 08/07/2011 8:10:47 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer

That wasn’t what I wanted to spend money on a degree for.


39 posted on 08/07/2011 8:41:06 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: ken21

Not the “boomers are the cause of everything bad” crap again. Who do you think are paying the highest social security taxes ever and won’t see any of it?

Lumping people into groups to pit them against one another is a socialist tactic.


40 posted on 08/07/2011 9:19:03 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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