Nanny State PING!
Posted on 08/12/2011 6:27:45 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
A new rule being proposed by the federal Department of Transportation would require farmers to get commercial drivers licenses.
The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration, which is a part of DOT, wants to adopt standards that would reclassify all farm vehicles and implements as Commercial Motor Vehicles, officials said. Likewise, the proposal, if adopted, would require all farmers and everyone on the farm who operates any of the equipment to obtain a CDL, they added.
The proposed rule change would mean that anyone who drives a tractor or operates any piece of motorized farming equipment would be required to pass the same tests and complete the same detailed forms and logs required of semi-tractor trailer drivers.
Drivers would keep logs of information including hours worked and miles traveled. Vehicles would be required to display DOT numbers. A CDL in Virginia costs $64 for eight years, or $8 per year, not including the cost of an instructional class and the written test.
If the DOT reclassifies farm vehicles and implements as commercial vehicles, the federal government will have regulatory control over the nation’s farm workers, estimated at over 800,000, by requiring them to have commercial drivers licenses.
(Excerpt) Read more at gazettevirginian.com ...
Same in Oklahoma
Britain, then on the way to the USSR.
Yes it does!
They need to pass laws that control everything that people do, and eventually it will become impossible NOT to break the laws.
As Rand wrote in "Atlas Shrugged,"
"There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws."
Mark
Nanny State PING!
It's not the least bit "stupid," and they ARE trying to kill the economy. Remember that Obama promised to "fundamentally change" the United States. The best way to do that is to get the majority of people dependent on the government, instill a belief in entitlement, sew the seeds of discontent through the use of class warfare, then crash the economy. If history has taught us anything, once civil order fails, the majority will cry out for the government to save them, and invariably that government will be a totalitarian one. Try to name just one instance where that didn't happen.
No, they're not stupid. Evil, not stupid.
Mark
This is what happens when we have spent years running roughshod over private property rights. There should be no liscense required if any motorized vehicls is not on a public road.....
thought you might like this one...
Not that they won't come back and try again. It's what they do.
I think the people we voted into office & who make our laws need to be tested randomly for drugs, alcohol & dementia. I really think some of them have to be drugged, drunk or demented to pass some of the laws they are passing & making a mess out of everything. Test that president too. If the average person can be tested in their jobs then so should the people we trusted & voted for & who don’t hear us once they get into office.
Ding, Ding, Ding! We have a winner!
The 2290 tax expires Sept 30, 2011. It’s on the table for the ‘Politburo’ to raise revenue.
Can you say ‘defacto Nationalization’? Thought you could.
It’s not just “absurd” on its merits, it’s a vast end run around the Constitution! Traffic laws and regs (other than torts, which obviously needs to apply anywhere) can’t apply on private property because it’s PRIVATE PROPERTY!! Why do you think Indy drivers can go 200mph and not fear a ticket? You’ve never needed even a standard operator’s license to operate even vehicles that would normally be regulated when on private property. You know those mall parking lots with posted speed limits where you can actually get a ticket for exceeding them? That’s because the mall owner gave them explicit permission to enforce in there. I think the PTB’s had to pull a fast one to get away with regulation even on “public” roads.
Allowed and legal are two different things in western Kansas during harvest.
May every Liberal starve to death. They are fighting a war against the food chain at every level.
Thanks for the info... my 15 year old son was asking me the other day if other states are set at 16 or if it differs. I didn’t know the answer at all. Even though it is limited... it makes sense to me. I always thought “why 16?”
“I always thought “why 16?”
Good question, 18 would be a better age. Some days I think 21 or 25.
You are real close on your statement but not quite there.
Here is where this is going:
You just don't have enough minorities working on your family farm.
What are you talking about?
You're gonna have to source that comment...
you are a little warm, it's all about the money and control
1 If they categorize farmers as commercial workers they take protections granted them as professionals, as they did us in 1990.
2 the state gets money off of re licensing, and the double endorsement would get the avg state an extra $35 so would the hazmat (for fertilizer) PLUS now homeland security gets $145 AND a background of everyone, PLUS fingerprints, any farmer with a felony would lose the ability to transport his own chemicals.
and I almost forgot physicals!
3 If they get commercial status the farmer has paperwork retention requirements and is subject to audit at will from the state and Feds...
4 Losing the off highway status creates a new pile of payers for 2290, TT&L, IFTA, DMV licensing, when Reagan created the 2290 (use fee) in the 80's it netted the general fund 20 Billion, I don't know how many farm tractors there are and they wouldn't get the $550 I pay per unit but it would surely be a pile.
5 CSA 2010 would surely apply and again the gov., would have control up to and including a farm I would guess.
6 They probably wouldn't need to get FMCSA authority but I would guess USDOT numbers would be applied.
My trucks avg. $16,000.00 ea. a year in taxes and somebody's thinking of ways to increase the size of the cash cow and like me, YOU'LL pay for what I pay for...
Price bacon lately? boy are my expenses getting high.
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