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The story of the discovery of Comet Elenin is a LIE. (Part 2)
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Posted on 08/19/2011 12:08:27 PM PDT by mnehring

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To: Freedom Dignity n Honor

Ah.. Nancy Lieder... Proprietor of “Zetatalk”.
She claims to be an alien ‘contactee’ in touch with aliens from “Zeta Reticuli” through an implant in her brain.

Back in 1997 she claimed that the comet Hale-Bopp was a hoax, that it didn’t exist.
Her exact words were “The Hale-Bopp comet does not exist. It is a fraud, perpetrated by those who would have the teeming masses quiescent until it is too late. Hale-Bopp is nothing more than a distant star, and will draw no closer.”
http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/planetx/lieder.html
linky about it.. has google cache links to her words above, she edited her website to remove the first two lines.
They sound familiar, several of the “Comet Elenin is gonna kill us all” crowd have used similar words, blaming some vast conspiracy out to fool us.
Reminds me of C.S.Lewis “The Last Battle” where the dwarves say they won’t be taken in.

She didn’t see the comet herself, she refused to even speak about it the night Hale-Bopp went by:
http://www.laughton.com/paul/rfo/nancy/nancy.html

Well..
Undeterred she continued to make claims of.. wait for it.. Planet X coming to kill us all.
In May 2003 she said.

Well, we’re still here so obviously it didn’t happen.
But, at any rate, the Planet X is gonna kill us crowd is still at it, still grasping at straws.
And still insisting that things aren’t what they are.
And they grasped comet Elenin as something sinister.
Why?
Honestly, I haven’t found any single reason why yet.
But there are claims of alien space ships folllowing Elenin along, just like the same claims made by Marshall Applewhite of Heavens Gate fame did of Hale-Bopp.

But, according to the true believers in our coming planetary death, Comet Elenin is a brown dwarf or a neutron star, or it is being controlled and steered towards us, etc.
[For a real laugh, watch the mind sominex videos of “Terral03”!]
Some even state with a straight face that comet Elenin is a ‘brown dwarf’ that is ‘four times the size*’ of Jupiter.
*Four times the physical size of Jupiter would be many orders of mass larger due to Coulomb pressure governing the size of a gas giant up until about 13 Jupiter mass or so where degenerate pressure begins to take hold.
Even then, the object doesn’t appear to be much different in physical size to Jupiter.

But, those asteroids I mentioned above?
A Brown Dwarf would have consumed them, flung them off, or otherwise disrupted them horribly.


161 posted on 08/22/2011 2:35:57 AM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: humblegunner

My coffee was in no way harmed or involved.


162 posted on 08/22/2011 2:42:32 AM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Bluesmover

“Debunk the Physics paper by Mensur, if you are such a good debunker.”

The paper claims to be considering alignments within 1 degree, yet it lists an earthquake on 1/3/2010 as occurring during an earth-mercury-sun-venus alignment. The actual alignment between earth, the sun, and mercury was about 4.8 degrees off, and the alignment between the earth, the sun, and Venus was about 2.2 degrees off that day. Right off the bat he’s full of it.

If you’re going to include alignments that are off by as much as 4 degrees, then there will be a grand total of 12 days of the year that don’t include some kind of alignment. That means you can basically pick any earthquake you want and blame it on an “alignment” and is a perfect example of why correlation does not imply causation.


163 posted on 08/30/2011 7:43:17 AM PDT by messierhunter
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