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GOP Operatives Fear Lasting Ron Paul Problem
Townhall.com ^ | August 23, 2011 | Byron York

Posted on 08/24/2011 4:38:28 AM PDT by Kaslin

Republicans dodged a big bullet at the Ames, Iowa, straw poll. If just 77 of the 4,283 people who voted for Rep. Michele Bachmann had voted instead for Rep. Ron Paul, then Paul would have won the straw poll. In the end, Bachmann came out ahead with 28.55 percent of the vote to Paul's 27.65 percent. No other candidate was close.

Some well-connected Iowa Republicans viewed it as a bullet dodged because they had long feared the possibility of a Paul victory.

"It would pour jet fuel on the East Coast narrative that Iowa is just too nutty to have such an important place in the nominating process," says one of those Republicans.

Before the poll, they saw a Paul-Bachmann one-two finish as the worst-case scenario. They ended up with Bachmann-Paul -- a result establishment Republicans viewed as somewhat better than the other way around -- and got a lot of the criticism anyway.

The criticism came not just from Democrats or so-called Eastern elite RINOs (Republicans in Name Only).

"Ron Paul is going to destroy this party if they keep him in there," said Rush Limbaugh the day after the Aug. 11 Fox News-Washington Examiner debate in Ames. "This is nuts on parade."

Key Republicans in Iowa -- and around the country, too -- are genuinely baffled by the Paul phenomenon. They understand (and share) many of Paul's views on the Constitution and limiting the size and scope of the federal government, even if they think Paul sometimes goes too far. What perplexes them is Paul's take on foreign policy, especially the threat of Iran acquiring nuclear weapons.

"Why wouldn't it be natural that they might want a weapon?" Paul asked at the Fox-Examiner debate. "They'd be given more respect. ... What's so terribly bad about this?"

As for sanctions against Iran, Paul said, "Countries that you put sanctions on, you are more likely to fight them. ... I say stay out of their internal business."

The crowd in Iowa State University's Stephens Auditorium included a large group of Paul supporters who broke into loud cheers every time Paul spoke, including when he gave his views on Iran. "That audience goes nuts," Limbaugh said the next day. "I think, 'Oh, my gosh, what am I watching here?' "

It's likely most Republicans agree with Limbaugh's assessment, and Paul's ability to say such things and still remain a force in the party confuses many in the GOP.

"What part of his support is attributable to a different world view, and what part is attributable to the economic libertarian world view?" asks the well-connected Iowa Republican, who freely admits he doesn't know the answer.

No one fears that Paul will walk away with the Republican nomination. But with a strong core of supporters, he has the means to stay in the race nearly as long as he wants. That core support also earns him a spot in high-profile debates.

To qualify for the Fox-Washington Examiner debate, for example, candidates had to have at least 1 percent support in five national polls. Paul qualified with plenty of room to spare; in the most recent RealClearPolitics average of polls, he has 9 percent support, well ahead of fellow candidates Herman Cain, Newt Gingrich, Jon Huntsman, Rick Santorum and, until his post-straw poll withdrawal from the race, Tim Pawlenty.

Paul also has enough money to do what he wants. He reported raising $4.5 million in the second quarter of this year, with about $3 million in the bank. Since he has decided to retire from the House, he can also spend unused funds raised for congressional campaigns.

Speaking of retirement -- one aspect of the Paul phenomenon that has received little attention so far is his age. Born in 1935, he will be 77 years old on Inauguration Day 2013 -- the same age Ronald Reagan was when he left the White House after serving two terms. If Paul were elected and re-elected, he'd be 85 at the end of his time in the White House. Even though Americans are living longer, most people would probably agree that's too old for a president.

But the Paul campaign isn't really about the practical possibility that he might become president. It's more about Paul's supporters forcing the larger political establishment to acknowledge that he's right.

"The day will come soon when candidate Paul will get his due," tweeted one supporter recently. "Blowback is gonna be a b---h."

Of course, most Republicans don't believe that. But Paul commands enough support to make his presence known all the way through next year.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; iowa; limbaugh; ronpaul
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To: AAABEST

“I once like Rush a lot better than Paul”, I agree, Rush and Levin both seem to be welded to their self perpetuating life lines @ the GOP/RNC....both have become shills for the statist on the Right. Neither appear to be able to do more than rant at their opponents! It’s time for a return to actual Conservatism, not the Repug Con!


21 posted on 08/24/2011 6:50:04 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Kaslin
It may come down to the question of: How much does the Republican establishment want those who would vote for Paul?

The next reasonable question would possibly be: How much does the Republican establishment need those who would vote for Paul?

If most of the comments on FREP that I've read about Paul are any indication, not many on this site care a whit for Paul and consider him an enemy as much as the Dems do. I don't know who I will vote for in the end, but it's kind of fun seeing all the liberal/progressives sweat in the GOP and the Dem party.

22 posted on 08/24/2011 6:58:06 AM PDT by C.O. Correspondence (I love this website!)
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To: All

kook paul is comic relief proof of the MSM view of the GOP.

kook paul is their propaganda spin “insanity by association”

covering kook paul is just journalistic malpractice.


23 posted on 08/24/2011 7:15:11 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: nhwingut
...Yea, write Palin in, waste yer vote. You'll be the one that gets Obama re-elected...

...I don't believe that but, that's the same sh!t a lot of us hear when we vote on the issues from FReaks like you...

...see ya...

24 posted on 08/24/2011 7:18:06 AM PDT by gargoyle (...This looks like a good fight, deal me in...)
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To: xzins
Paul has a libertarian take on things, and his supporters must have that same view. Therefore, I’m thinking they should be viewed as “independents.” Will they find the democratic party liberal social views the deciding factor, or will they find the republican party’s conservative fiscal policies to be more important.

You have, in a nutshell, summed up why the Republican party is going nowhere. You expel liberatrians a social liberals, when the libertarian view is to get government out of "social issues." Nothing is more abohrant to a libertarian than the Democrats. The fact that social conservatives see the republican party choices as RINOism or social conservativism, is a big problem, however.

25 posted on 08/24/2011 7:32:05 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Kaslin
"Ron Paul is going to destroy this party if they keep him in there,"

So how exactly to you propose to get him out of there, Rush? He has already proven that he is able to ride out a campaign till the end on relatively little money. And he doesn't seem amenable to appeals to do "the proper thing" in the name of GOP unity.

On the other hand if you piss the Good Doctor off he may just take his Band of Merry Paulestinians and make a third-party run at it.
26 posted on 08/24/2011 7:34:52 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Kaslin
If there were a candidate in the GOP primaries who was as clearly on message as Ron Paul regarding our last two decades of crony capitalism/asset bubbles, and that candidate was even a couple of notches closer to the conservative mainstream on social and foreign policy, he or she would be leading the polls and I believe would be the consensus favorite on FR.

But there is nobody like that. None of the other candidates has openly broken with the Wall Street-Federal Reserve bull---t.

27 posted on 08/24/2011 7:41:31 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Nothing will cure the economy but debt deleveraging, deregulation, and time.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

A third party gives the win to Obama, but at the same time, I have no problem with people voting their principles if that’s what they decide they have to do.

I think Paul would not win. His foreign policy would undermine any national run.

I do think Rand Paul would make a great VP candidate, but he probably hasn’t been in Senate long enough....although Obama was.

I doubt Ron Paul as a VP candidate would help anything; his foreign policy would still kill the ticket.


28 posted on 08/24/2011 8:51:10 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: all the best
Just so everyone knows:

77% of Democrats (and Ron Paul) Voted Against Rules Of Engagement That Protect Our Troops
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/08/77_of_democrats_and_ron_paul_voted_against_rules_of_engagement_that_protect_our_troops.html

29 posted on 08/25/2011 6:19:15 AM PDT by seekthetruth (A President is sworn to uphold the Constitution. If he doesn't, IMPEACH him!)
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