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I answered the question of........

‘What were birthers, so_real specifically, saying about 0bama’s eligibility BEFORE the 2008 election - and how common was the idea that to be a natural born citizen you had to be born in country of two citizen parents - and did so_real ever say so BEFORE the election?’

The answer to that question that has you all in a tizzy is that the idea that the standard for a natural born citizen being “born in country of two citizen parents” was EXTREMELY rare before the election in 2008 - and you, so_real, didn't once say that this was the standard before the 2008 election.

So why didn't you ever say that this was the standard before the 2008 election?

What was your agenda behind not saying what you supposedly learned in High School?

What was your agenda behind not saying what you supposedly learned in High School?

Seriously you could fill books with things I've learned in high school I've not mentioned on FR. Certainly you can say the same for yourself, no? If an old FReeper reads this post today, feels his memory jogged, and says "You know, that's the way I remember it taught too", will you chastise him for omissions in his posting history? There's a new birther coming on board every day ...

‘What were birthers, so_real specifically, saying about 0bama’s eligibility BEFORE the 2008 election - and how common was the idea that to be a natural born citizen you had to be born in country of two citizen parents - and did so_real ever say so BEFORE the election?’

Again, with the Debate 101 material ... your best "argument" is a fallacy of omission. It is called "argumentum ad ignorantium" -- you claim that because I *may* not have mentioned something akin to 'born of citizens within U.S. jurisdiction' on this forum prior to November 2008, that I could not have been educated with such an understanding prior to the date. It's a ludicrous assertion in any debate. You compound this by "stacking the deck", ignoring examples of historical figures holding the same understanding of natural born citizen, deliberately, in order to support your position.

What was I saying prior to the 2008 election? When did I first become aware that Obama's father was not a U.S. citizen? When did I become aware Obama was adopted and spent his early years in Indonesia? When did I first look at the validity of the birth certifications and certificates for the purpose of verifying lineage? Discerning the 'cause' for the 'effect' is far more rational than inventing your own conspiracy theory regarding the rise of "birtherism".

You keep claiming omissions have been made and pointing to some birther conspiracy to explain them. I lived my life, the chips fell where they fell, the differences of opinion on the definition of natural born citizen are recorded and date back for nearly as long as our union has existed. Why is it so difficult for you to comprehend that the concept was handed down through the generations and persists today? Or, is that just an act? What is your agenda here?