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Rick Perry’s Support Skyrockets Among Church Goers
The State Column ^ | August 27, 2011 | staff

Posted on 08/27/2011 6:00:47 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Texas Governor Rick Perry is polling very well at the national-level. In fact, the longest-serving Texas Governor recently won a Gallup poll of Republican and Republican-leaning independents.

Perry pulled in a larger percentage of the vote than former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) and Rep. Ron Paul (R-Tex.). Perry won the Gallup poll with 29 percent of the vote. Romney took second place with 17 percent of the vote. Paul grabbed third place with 13 percent of the vote and Bachmann took fourth place with 10 percent of the vote.

This is the first Gallup poll to survey Republicans and Republican-leaning independents with Perry as an announced candidate. In July, a Gallup poll found that Perry had 18 percent of the vote as an unannounced candidate. Perry took second place in this poll, trailing Romney by 4 percent.

In the latest Gallup poll, Perry also finished strong among church goers, especially weekly church goers. Among those surveyed who never or seldom attend church, Perry took first place with 24 percent of the vote. However, when Gallup surveyed those who attend church on a monthly basis, Perry’s support jumped to 27 percent. Perry’s support skyrocketed when Gallup surveyed those who attend church on a weekly basis. In this instance, Perry grabbed 34 percent of the vote. Romney, who took second place under this condition, trailed Perry by 18 percentage points.

The Gallup poll also revealed that Perry has strong support among the elderly. Perry took in 40 percent of the vote when those surveyed were 65 years of age or older. In this instance, Romney pulled in 16 percent of the vote.

Despite his support among monthly and weekly church goers, Perry’s religious beliefs have put the GOP candidate in some hot water in the past. On August 6th, Perry held a prayer rally in Houston, Texas. During his prayer rally, Perry called on God to help “those who cannot see the light in the midst of all the darkness.” As many as 30,000 people attended Perry’s prayer rally.

However, not everyone was impressed by Perry’s prayer rally. Some were concerned that Perry’s prayer rally was a sign that the Texas Governor won’t be able to appeal to a broader audience of Republicans who want a candidate who can defeat President Obama.

Regardless of the popularity of Perry’s prayer rally, the Texas Governor remains extremely popular among Republicans and Republican-leaning independents who are church goers.


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1 posted on 08/27/2011 6:00:52 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

YEAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! That’s more like it! GO PERRY!


2 posted on 08/27/2011 6:11:55 AM PDT by wk4bush2004 ("FREEDOM, PROSPERITY, RESPONSIBILITY: RICK PERRY 2012!")
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To: wk4bush2004

3 posted on 08/27/2011 6:17:34 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Has Rick Perry been tested, I mean really tested?

Do we have evidence that he will do the right thing, when it’s the hardest thing to do?

I don’t mean will he say the right things when it makes him sound conservative or when it goes along with his political ambitions. That’s not a test, it’s the easy thing to do.

I mean in all of his many years as a politician, is there any record that Rick Perry will make the hard choice to do what’s right according to his convictions, even though it brings a heavy personal price and/or a huge political risk?


4 posted on 08/27/2011 6:34:05 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Or, more accurately--reason serves faith.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Perry is Mitt Rino’s worst nightmare. He won’t touch Palin’s numbers.

Pray for America


5 posted on 08/27/2011 6:44:18 AM PDT by bray (The Country Club opens with prayers against Palin)
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To: reasonisfaith

Maybe I don’t know enough about Perry. But if this is the case, surely something will come up soon that will satisfy my question in post # 4.


6 posted on 08/27/2011 6:45:06 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Or, more accurately--reason serves faith.)
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To: reasonisfaith
Based on the fact that the guy has a long record as Governor of Texas, its hard to say that he hasn't been “tested.” I didn't know much about this guy until a few weeks ago, but when you sift through the crap, its quite impressive and he very well may get my republican primary vote. Of course, like any politician, his track record includes a few actions that give me some pause. However, his explanations and subsequent actions appear reasonable to me.

Its a lot like when I voted for Reagan the first time. I didn't like his flip-flop on abortion, and I was very concerned that his explanation for voting for the Therapeutic abortion act in 1967, allowing for abortion in California, were BS. In addition, I certainly didn't like Reagan's track record of raising taxes as California governor - he voted for the largest tax increase at the time in California history. Yet his explanations seemed reasonable (necessary given the California Dem legislature). I gave the guy a shot because, on the whole, he seemed to be the best conservative candidate at the time and I hoped it wasn't BS. It turned out pretty good for me and the Country. Perry's track record as governor of Texas lines up pretty good against this bar. Particularly his stand on taxes, abortion and gun control. Now for those who seem to attack him on immigration issues, do your homework. Perry has what appears to be reasonable explanations and a different take on the spin. In addition, keep in mind that even our beloved Reagan made a goof in this area, granting amnesty for over 3 million illegals. Something Perry is nowhere near being accused of.

7 posted on 08/27/2011 6:53:56 AM PDT by Nicojones
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To: reasonisfaith
I guess we're going to find out how well he holds up.

So far he has.

And here is a snapshot of his strong support.

The "I know this candidate" (recognition) MATCHED TO "I will contribute money and crawl over broken glass to vote for them" (intensity) numbers.

Perry's intensity numbers have held steady as his recognition numbers continue to rise.

And Perry has room to rise higher as more people review his years in office and learn his story.

8 posted on 08/27/2011 6:57:23 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: reasonisfaith

Hard choices? Sometimes, and he seems to be trending in the right direction. There are no perfect candidates. If we don’t get Perry, we are likely to end up with Mittens.


9 posted on 08/27/2011 6:59:10 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Nicojones
Nice, reasoned post. Thanks.

I ran across this yesterday, and knowing Perry's fight with Big Education, thought this was a very interesting essay.

Will Rick Perry Unravel the Strange Consensus on Public Education?

10 posted on 08/27/2011 7:00:54 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I saw that one yesterday as well. When I started researching Perry, his take on education was one of the things that drew me to him. It is definitely Reaganesque and the fact that the liberal websites are taking notice of this and getting alarmed is further affirmation.


11 posted on 08/27/2011 7:15:58 AM PDT by Nicojones
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

>>> Rick Perry’s Support Skyrockets Among Church Goers

The Church of Sarah cries out “REPENT YE HERETICS!”.


12 posted on 08/27/2011 7:26:53 AM PDT by tlb
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To: Nicojones
I'm glad you saw that.

I wonder if that teacher/author knew (I guess he does) that Rick Perry refused Obama's "race to the top" money and then sued the Feds for it with no strings attached -- and won.

Gov. Rick Perry said "no" to competing in "Race to the Top." Texas Knows Best How to Educate Our Students

But Rep. Shelia Jackson-Lee and her Democratic Party wanted Perry's signature so the "money would flow to our schools within days."

Gov. Perry sued for Texas' money (without Washington telling us how to spend it) -- And won! Promise Kept.

Mona Charen: NRO Beware those 'radical' ideas -- Good opinion piece on Perry and education – Reagan simplicity that works

13 posted on 08/27/2011 7:27:00 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; P-Marlowe
During his prayer rally, Perry called on God to help “those who cannot see the light in the midst of all the darkness.”

The media is staffed by the poorly educated and the unread. Perry's words were AT A PRAYER MEETING OF CHRISTIANS, and are nearly a direct quote, and definitely a scriptural allusion to: 1 John 2:8 NIV Yet I am writing you a new command; its truth is seen in him and you, because the darkness is passing and the true light is already shining.

All, of course, is a metaphor used throughout the bible and based on the physical universe:

Genesis 1:2 NIV Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters....4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness.

14 posted on 08/27/2011 7:36:28 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

bump.


15 posted on 08/27/2011 7:42:58 AM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Our minister (independent Baptist) is pro Perry at this time. I don’t get it. I don’t like any of the candidates so far.


16 posted on 08/27/2011 7:52:37 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("I know that God's tomorrow will be better than today!" A. H. Ackley)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Arguments for electability are not arguments for integrity.

Before I support Perry, I want to see what he’s done in the past that shows he will choose what’s right at the expense of personal gain.

From what I’ve seen, only one presidential contender has passed this test, and it’s not Perry.


17 posted on 08/27/2011 8:06:11 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Or, more accurately--reason serves faith.)
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To: Nicojones

What I meant was this: sticking to your word is the true test.

It’s not enough to speak conservative principles during a campaign. It’s not enough to push a conservative political agenda when you know it will score points.

Before I support Rick Perry, I want to see evidence from his record that he did the right thing when nobody was looking.


18 posted on 08/27/2011 8:15:34 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Or, more accurately--reason serves faith.)
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To: reasonisfaith
Arguments for electability are not arguments for integrity.

That wasn't why I posted my comment. My point was, people who know Perry and his positions, like him. He still has more people to reach so his chances of getting the country behind him will be even greater.

I'm glad you have a candidate you can get behind. I wish them well.

19 posted on 08/27/2011 8:16:22 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“I’m glad you have a candidate you can get behind.”

I’m glad you’re glad. What I’m saying is I want to be “glad” about the candidacy of Rick Perry.

Where in Perry’s record does it show he passes the true test—that he will do what’s right when nobody’s looking?


20 posted on 08/27/2011 8:20:04 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Or, more accurately--reason serves faith.)
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To: reasonisfaith
Where in Perry’s record does it show he passes the true test—that he will do what’s right when nobody’s looking?

I've seen your posts, asking that question.

Everyone is always looking at someone in office.

How can one answer a question formulated like that?

If you don't mind, who is your candidate?

21 posted on 08/27/2011 8:24:07 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: bray

Based on what?


22 posted on 08/27/2011 8:26:04 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: reasonisfaith
Per Dr. Jack Wheeler: If you want perfection, die and go to heaven, as that's the only place you'll find it. If you want a Messiah, pray for the Second Coming, but don't demand it of a Republican presidential candidate. If you want miracles, pray that the Almighty will perform them, but don't expect them to be performed by a human being, POTUS or no.
23 posted on 08/27/2011 8:28:54 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; RoosterRedux; jonrick46; deepbluesea; RockinRight; TexMom7; potlatch; ...
Perry Ping....

IF you'd rather NOT be pinged FReepmail me.

IF you'd like to be added FReepmail me. Thanks.

24 posted on 08/27/2011 8:30:09 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: tlb
The Church of Sarah cries out “REPENT YE HERETICS!”.

LOL!

25 posted on 08/27/2011 8:34:14 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: reasonisfaith
From what I’ve seen, only one presidential contender has passed this test, and it’s not Perry.

And just who would that be?
26 posted on 08/27/2011 8:41:16 AM PDT by Oceander (The phrase "good enough for government work" is not meant as a compliment)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Rick Perry’s Support Skyrockets Among Church Goers”

Church goers are either (sarcasm) socialist or stupid. There, I beat the trolls to it.


27 posted on 08/27/2011 8:42:24 AM PDT by Grunthor (In order; Perry, Palin. None of the rest matter 'til the general)
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To: reasonisfaith

I understood your point. My point to you was that (if you truly are seeking to be persuaded), you should check his record yourself, keep an open mind, you may find that he has met that test. Moreover, I was trying to point out to you that if you held a strict standard like that on the greaest conservaive president in our lifetime, even he would fail. If it was 1980 right now, you’d be saying that, when Reagan was called to take a stand against abortion, he folded like a cheap suit and voted for the therapeutic abortion act. He had a chance to draw a line in the sand on taxes, yet folded again as Governor. Perry hasn’t done such things. As for “integrity”, when you find that machine that can look into the mind of a man and reveal the truth, let us know. There are doubts about all candidates and questionable actions as well. You say you’ve found one candidate. Great. I’m sure if you post that person’s name, I’ll be able to tear them apart with questions about their prior actions. All have skeletons because all are human, just like the Gipper. BTW, I have no intentions of doing that because I respect all of the republican candidates and wouldn’t dare impugn them in public. Why feed the dem trolls.


28 posted on 08/27/2011 8:43:50 AM PDT by Nicojones
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To: tlb

lmao!


29 posted on 08/27/2011 8:47:00 AM PDT by Grunthor (In order; Perry, Palin. None of the rest matter 'til the general)
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To: LomanBill
Perry = prosperity, Obama = austerity

As you're against Perry, it necessarily follows that you are for Obama. Closet Liberal.
31 posted on 08/27/2011 8:58:24 AM PDT by Oceander (The phrase "good enough for government work" is not meant as a compliment)
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To: reasonisfaith
It is doubtful Perry can pass such a test. Are your requests realistic? I want the best, most conservative I can get that can win.

These purity tests can be destructive.

On another note, I wish Perry had not signed these pledges. I'm getting sick of each group demanding a prospective candidate sign their particular pledge or they'll withhold support.

I'll have more respect for the candidate that tells these groups to go take a flying leap. Their word and record should be good enough. Pledges gets one in a trap and who knows what kind of convoluted legislation may appear.

33 posted on 08/27/2011 9:08:28 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: LomanBill

Say that again! It’s so funny it’s priceless. Mebbe you could video yourself saying it and put it up on U-tube; it’d be an instant viral hit.


34 posted on 08/27/2011 9:09:17 AM PDT by Oceander (The phrase "good enough for government work" is not meant as a compliment)
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To: LomanBill
Perry is nothing but Obama in Whiteface.

I can't imagine any intelligent, reasonable person agreeing with this statement.

35 posted on 08/27/2011 9:09:53 AM PDT by Gena Bukin (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: reasonisfaith
Has Rick Perry been tested, I mean really tested? Do we have evidence that he will do the right thing, when it’s the hardest thing to do? I don’t mean will he say the right things when it makes him sound conservative or when it goes along with his political ambitions. That’s not a test, it’s the easy thing to do. I mean in all of his many years as a politician, is there any record that Rick Perry will make the hard choice to do what’s right according to his convictions, even though it brings a heavy personal price and/or a huge political risk?

That's impossible to determine until the suituation requiring such decisions occurs. Kind of like soldiers going into battle - not odd for the "real macho men" to lose it ans the apparent Harvey Milquetoast guys to perform some really heroic deeds.

If you want "proof" you're SOL for now. You might also ask, "Who do we have that we can be certain about in this area?" Let me know if you have a name that might meet the criteria.

IMHO, Palin has shown signs of the ability/willingness, and despite what we keep hearing about Perry, he has the potential.

36 posted on 08/27/2011 9:10:35 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Oceander
No. You are mistaken. In writing “PBR Streetgang...” , he referenced a line from the leftist propaganda movie Apocalypse Now. You know, the one that depicted all of our Vietnam vets as drug crazed lunatics, fighting for nothing. At least he's consistent - following leftist propaganda storylines that piss all over good people in America.
37 posted on 08/27/2011 9:11:16 AM PDT by Nicojones
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To: Nicojones

Eh? Was that a knock on me, or a knock on someone else?


38 posted on 08/27/2011 9:14:30 AM PDT by Oceander (The phrase "good enough for government work" is not meant as a compliment)
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To: Gena Bukin
I can't imagine any intelligent, reasonable person agreeing with this statement.

The great thing about the internet is you can actually see that crazy .005%. It's like a zoo of crazy ideas.

Anyone that walked outside their home and asked random citizens if they thought 'Rick Perry was Obama in whiteface' would be laughed at. Not once. Every single time. Imagine going to the mall or somewhere crowded, and just stopping people. How many hundreds would you have to go through before someone stopped and said, "Yeah, man, you're on to something. He's like Karl Marx in chaps."

The internet does provide those cranky handfuls a place to pretend that there's some groundswell to their ideas.

39 posted on 08/27/2011 9:15:45 AM PDT by Steel Wolf ("Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master." - Gaius Sallustius Crispus)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

That’s a good point, it’s not so simple to answer the question. But really, it’s the most important question of all.

RINOs, who were at first thought to be conservative, are everywhere.

This tells us how widespread the problem is. And the problem, simply put, is corruption. Corruption of principle.

The antidote to corruption in a politician is a very rare quality. Meaning that the vast majority of politicians who sound conservative during a campaign are in fact, to varying degrees, untrustworthy. We know this from common sense, but so often we forget it. Me included. But objective, historical evidence can shake this problem.

I’m a Palin guy, because I’ve seen what she did, at great personal risk and when it seemed politically nonviable, to fight against crony capitalism and corruption in general. I’ve seen that she keeps her word. If Perry has this quality and it is in his record, I will be very pleased.

Keep in mind, words from the mouth of a politician during a campaign are highly unreliable in the absense of a record—a high score on the most important test.


40 posted on 08/27/2011 9:16:45 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Or, more accurately--reason serves faith.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

All this proves is that a certain group of naive people, who should know better, continue to follow false political flags.


41 posted on 08/27/2011 9:17:34 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (At best, all the Republicans are willing to give the Federal Behemoth is a slight haircut.)
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To: Oceander

No Knock, Oceander. I was adding to your post #31 in response to post #30.


42 posted on 08/27/2011 9:22:52 AM PDT by Nicojones
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To: reasonisfaith

Thank you for your reply.

Perry will have to make his case to you and the country.

I’m putting as much out there about Perry as I can find (and trying to keep spinners and such, more “honest” than not).

In the end only God knows a man’s true heart.

Let’s pray He guides our choice.


43 posted on 08/27/2011 9:23:13 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Nicojones

Okey dokey!


44 posted on 08/27/2011 9:24:56 AM PDT by Oceander (The phrase "good enough for government work" is not meant as a compliment)
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To: reasonisfaith
Before I support Rick Perry, I want to see evidence from his record that he did the right thing when nobody was looking.

This is a very noble point, but not a path to success. Milton Friedman explains why.

I do not believe that the solution to our problem is simply to elect the right people. The important thing is to establish a political climate of opinion which will make it politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right thing. Unless it is politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right thing, the right people will not do the right thing either, or it they try, they will shortly be out of office.

If there's one thing that can be said about Perry's mistakes, is that once the people speak, he backs off and does the right thing. For our system of government, that's the best we can expect. If we're not vigilant on whipping our politicians into line, then even the most pure of heart will just be passing lights on our way to ruin. If we are vigilant, then there is nothing we can't do.

45 posted on 08/27/2011 9:25:04 AM PDT by Steel Wolf ("Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master." - Gaius Sallustius Crispus)
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To: reasonisfaith

But she quits. That is not a good trait for POTUS nor a conservative one at that.

Perry has 30 years of public service on his side. There’s plenty to check him out on. He is the most experienced candidate in the race as far as governing and executive experience goes.


46 posted on 08/27/2011 9:25:19 AM PDT by CajunConservative
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To: trebb

We can be certain that in a decade long career as Governor, Perry has had many opportunities to make the hard choices. To put principle above politics.

The idea that he has not had these opportunities, again and again, is an impossibility.

The name I will give you is the name you already mention—Palin. What did she have to gain when she blew the whistle on Randy Ruedrich? Nothing but principle. What did she have to lose? Money, lots of it, and political power.

Palin chose to go with principle.


47 posted on 08/27/2011 9:30:08 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Or, more accurately--reason serves faith.)
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To: reasonisfaith

I believe that his books tell us a lot about his thinking. (as he said in Fed UP, he’s risked sabotaging any run for the Presidency by writing a book calling Social Security a Ponzi scheme and advocating overturning of the 16th Amendment.) In the last chapter, he’s included concrete suggestions about how to overturn the move to big, centralized government that’s bankrupting our country and taking freedoms from individuals.

In real life, this year he put the ultrasound bill, the “Choose Life” license plates, the Sanctuary Cities and the voter ID bills on the emergency list which allowed them to be fast tracked. the only one that did not pass was the Sanctuary cities bill, even after being added to the Special Session.

Two tests that stand out are death penalty cases, one during President Bush’s term and one in the last month. Governor Perry successfully - and fairly quietly - stood up to pressure by the two Presidents to yield to international law rather than the law of Texas.


48 posted on 08/27/2011 9:34:05 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.org)(I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.)(RIAing))
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To: LomanBill
Man...are you from DU?...you have obviously become that delusional...

1Timothy 4:12 Let no man despise thy youth; but be thou an example of the believers, in word, in conversation, in charity, in spirit, in faith, in purity.

49 posted on 08/27/2011 9:39:00 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: LomanBill
Perry is nothing but Obama in Whiteface.

And your statement is nothing but a complete departure from reason.

50 posted on 08/27/2011 9:39:25 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Two blogs for the price of none!)
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