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Terri Schiavo Again: Mild Stroke Leads to Mother’s Starvation
Life News ^ | 9/13/11 | Kate Kelly

Posted on 09/13/2011 4:08:10 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: RnMomof7

What kind of society have we devolved into, when we sanction the purposed death of our most helpless victims? This is the cruelest of all cruelty. May God Bless this daughter, and awaken this nation.


41 posted on 09/13/2011 6:23:00 PM PDT by alamogal
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To: wagglebee

There is absolutely no comparison to having an appendix removed or taking antibiotics with what I was describing as acting like God. I am thankful for and completely appreciate the medical advances which allow someone who is ill to recover and continue with their life.

What I was specifically addressing was people who are unable to let a loved one go and insist upon every possible medical intervention, no matter how invasive or uncomfortable it may be. My husband is a firefighter/EMT and he has been made physically ill by being forced to do CPR on people who are in their 90s, have terminal cancer and dementia, but the families demand, “Save him!”. The poor patient is put through massive trauma simply to restart a heart that was trying to stop...that’s what I was referring to in my post.

I do not know all of the facts surrounding this woman’s death - if we were able to hear from the son and the older daughter, we might have gotten a different set of facts. I have a dear friend who was the only one to accept that his mother was dying of congestive heart failure - his siblings were in denial and kept insisting that she just needed her “meds regulated”. When the mother did pass away, he was the only one who had said his goodbyes. Maybe the mother in this story had an advance directive and they were following HER wishes. The daughter indicates that she had a mild stroke - but maybe it was more than that. Stroke recovery/therapy at that age is extremely difficult and would have been exacerbated by her dementia.

I am really not trying to provoke a fight but I felt like there were details that this article didn’t include and I don’t think the issue is quite as black and white as the author painted it.


42 posted on 09/13/2011 6:48:22 PM PDT by VikingMom (I may not know what the future holds but I know who holds the future!)
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To: VikingMom

I completely agree with you. There comes a time when we need to know “when to say when”. I truly believe that God can work a miracle with or without a feeding tube.
My mom died and prior to her death made it implicitly clear that she did not want a fee ding tube. We used a syringe to give her liquids and fed her applesauce until she rejected everything.She did not suffer and we honored her wishes.


43 posted on 09/13/2011 7:00:54 PM PDT by copwife (All God's creatures have a place in the choir!)
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To: wagglebee

I think I would be in prison sometime during the course of this abuse. I would not be able to be a good soldier. This is beastly.


44 posted on 09/13/2011 7:58:36 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Jaidyn

My sympathies to you in an incredibly difficult situation.

I can’t give you advice because I am not in your position but I can say that I will pray that God will give you peace as you make very difficult decisions. Your husband’s life is in God’s hands and nothing that you do will change the will of God so don’t beat yourself up!


45 posted on 09/13/2011 8:00:31 PM PDT by VikingMom (I may not know what the future holds but I know who holds the future!)
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To: Venturer

Well then do a living will and you will not have to worry about it.


46 posted on 09/13/2011 8:42:25 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: wagglebee

It is indeed.


47 posted on 09/13/2011 8:49:27 PM PDT by cycjec
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To: WestwardHo

I assume that the brother or other sister had power of attorney and the younger sister, the writer, could legally do nothing.


48 posted on 09/13/2011 9:57:22 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Got one, also I might add that if you go in a nursing hom sign a DNR order. Do not Resuscitate.


49 posted on 09/14/2011 4:12:26 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: wagglebee

If you recall, we were assured when Terri was being murdered that slowly being starved and dehydrated to death and given suffocating amounts of morphine in a 100 degree room with no humidity is “euphoric.”

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I don’t recall, but I’ll take your word for it.

The “nurses” should try it themselves. Seems like it would be a pretty interesting experiment for someone to do for 5 days, and publish some videos of how they actually feel on the prescribed doses sans water and food, to see if it is painful.

Heck, PETA would be up in arms if someone simulated and videoed and published a “partial birth abortion” on a living dog. They’d flip, instantly.


50 posted on 09/14/2011 9:54:10 AM PDT by ROTB (Christian sin breeds enemies for the USA. If you're a Christian, stop sinning, and spread the Word..)
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To: ROTB

Here is an old ABC News article stating that being starved and dehydrated to death caused “euphoria”:

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Schiavo/story?id=531907&page=1

The irony of this claim is two-fold:

1. Unless they have someone who actually communicated this “euphoria” prior to death there is no way to know whether this is true or not.

2. The media was also repeatedly telling us, through use of various adjectives, that Terri was “brain dead” and it is IMPOSSIBLE for a person who is actually brain dead to experience euphoria (though the fact that Terri was conscious and didn’t require any sort of heart-lung machine was also absolute proof that she was not brain dead because brain activity is required for the heart and lungs to operate on their own).


51 posted on 09/14/2011 12:06:14 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Yeah, “brain dead” my foot.

I remember posted video of her following a balloon, and pictures of her responding to her parents.


52 posted on 09/14/2011 2:02:52 PM PDT by ROTB (Christian sin breeds enemies for the USA. If you're a Christian, stop sinning, and spread the Word..)
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To: wagglebee

>The irony of this claim is two-fold

The problem with serial lying (other than going to hell when you die http://www.freecdtracts.com/heavenandhell.htm), is that eventually and inevitably, one steps in it.


53 posted on 09/14/2011 2:20:10 PM PDT by ROTB (Christian sin breeds enemies for the USA. If you're a Christian, stop sinning, and spread the Word..)
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To: wagglebee

“This is too awful for words.”

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Libera nos a malo


54 posted on 09/14/2011 5:01:40 PM PDT by Morgana (I don't speak much...............but when I do....)
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Pinged from Terri Dailies


56 posted on 09/18/2011 10:49:19 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: WestwardHo

Thanks for posting your experience; mine was on the other end of the age spectrum but was the same: all were treated with care and compassion.

This story showcases an unspeakably evil and inhuman, never mind inhumane, attitude.


57 posted on 09/22/2011 12:08:14 PM PDT by cyn (#AttackWatch -- sez it all)
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To: mewzilla

I’m wondering WHY she allowed her mother to be treated with such indignity. Period.


58 posted on 11/01/2011 4:15:06 PM PDT by ourworldawry
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