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Student Suspended for Saying Gay Is Wrong
Fox Dallas Fort Worth ^ | Wednesday, 21 Sep 2011 | Lari Barager

Posted on 09/22/2011 10:33:36 AM PDT by EternalVigilance

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To: verga; trisham; wintertime

You’re out of your mind. So wintertime, trisham and I must under coercion take 15 to 20 of your students, or we have no right to say anything.

I have home schooled not only my own children but helped home school many others. I taught kids to read using my own invented materials very quickly and children enjoyed learning when I taught them. But I’m sure that all means nothing to you. Oh, and when my kids did wing up going to public school for a year when I coudlnt’ teach them at home, they both entered the “gifted and talented” track or whatever it’s called because they were so far ahead of their grade. One was in the 95% of everything, the other was in the 95% of everything other than math.

The principal told me they’d likely have to be moved to a lower grade when I first enrolled them, since I was a high school dropout and did not use any regular cirriculum while home schooling. He was shocked beyond belief when he saw how academcally advanced they were.

Sounds to me as though you’re eaten up with something.


261 posted on 09/24/2011 7:02:42 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: wintertime; little jeremiah; trisham
1) I have never met a homeschooler with ADD or ADHD who has been homeschooled from the beginning. 2) I have never met an obese homeschooler ( or even overweight one) who has been homeschooled from the beginning. And i ahve offered to send one that I had two years ago several times and you never seem to respond. Chris XXXX is 100 lbs over weight and is ADD and oppositional defiant. His parents had to send him to pulbic school because mommy couldn't control him. I am willing to be that his mother would pay you to take him.
262 posted on 09/24/2011 7:05:00 PM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: verga; wintertime
Government on every level must be ended.

Ahem - for a teacher you seem to fail the "context" issue. Wintertime obviously means in connection with education.

263 posted on 09/24/2011 7:05:05 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: little jeremiah
Snarking will get you nowhere.

Not snarking at all. If you have a better idea I will contribute to your campagin and go door to door for you.

I choose to work from within the system.

264 posted on 09/24/2011 7:07:20 PM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: little jeremiah
Sounds to me as though you’re eaten up with something.

Eaten up NO just sick and tied of Wintertime and her ilks whining and doing nothing to improve it. She used the public schools for her own selfish wants and then has the gall to tell me to quit my job and others how to raise their kds when she can't convince her own children to do it.

265 posted on 09/24/2011 7:10:29 PM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: little jeremiah
Ahem - for a teacher you seem to fail the "context" issue. Wintertime obviously means in connection with education.

Yeah cover for her that is good. This is just one example of her going off the deep end and then trying to say what she "really meant". Keep enabling her, that way she won't get the medical she really needs.

266 posted on 09/24/2011 7:13:00 PM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: wintertime

Once I home schooled a ten or eleven year old girl who had had some public schooling and some home schooling. Her mother couldnt’ handle her and there were family “issues”. I took care of her at my home for about 3 or 4 months. She was way, way behind her age level in everything, could not sit still, could not concentrate, hated any schoolwork, etc. Her handwriting was atrocious. It was a challenge but I loved that child.

So, I worked out a plan (plus I HAD to use the stupid workbooks provided, which made it more difficult). She was allowed to do 20 minutes of schooling, and then 5 or 10 minutes outside to play with the cats or whatever she wanted. We worked on her handwriting very carefully. She received no punishments. We did some other things as well.

After a few weeks, her handwriting was gazillion times better, and she started begging to do more than 20 minutes so she could “finish” things that used to take her days to finish. I wouldn’t let her do school longer until a month or so, then she was allowed 25 minutes of schoolwork and 10 minutes active play.

Each child is different.

Unfortunately when she went back home the previous agenda was followed which was extremely counter productive. But at least she had those months with me, and now as a late teenager, she attends a wonderful private school far away from home and loves every minute of it!


267 posted on 09/24/2011 7:25:30 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: verga; wintertime
Your anger and bitterness or whatever is bothering you, is making you very unpleasant to deal with. I hope you don't act like this when dealing with your students. And running for office is not the same thing as teaching children. Just because wintertime and I have other ideas about the best way to educate children, therefore we should run for public office?

So you choose to work within the system. Why do people that have differing views than yourself terrify and anger you so much? None of us are telling you that you should quit teaching tomorrow.

Yeah cover for her that is good. This is just one example of her going off the deep end and then trying to say what she "really meant". Keep enabling her, that way she won't get the medical she really needs.

And that comment above shows a total lack of class, politeness, respect and perhaps sobriety.

268 posted on 09/24/2011 7:30:15 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Marie
...Word spread throughout the school and she got high-fives for weeks after...

Awesome story!

269 posted on 09/24/2011 8:16:11 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (To ACLU & its plaintiffs: Stop dragging the public into your personal struggle w/ God. -Mark Baisley)
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To: little jeremiah
None of us are telling you that you should quit teaching tomorrow. Maybe you need to go back and read some of the posts that have been directed at me on this thread alone.

And that comment above shows a total lack of class, politeness, respect and perhaps sobriety.

WOW, talk about jumping the shark.

A) Like I said go back and read some of the things said to me and about Public high school teachers in general on this thread alone and you will be commending me for my restraint, if you are honest that is.

B) I give the exact same amount of respect that I am my profession receive.

C) I restrict myself to a sip of the Precious Blood a Mass on the weekends due to a medical condition.

270 posted on 09/24/2011 8:42:39 PM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: sport

I think you misread the article. It was the assistant principal, not the the principal, who suspended the kid. So then, it was the action of the head principal in reversing the other guy’s act of suspension that I was praising.


271 posted on 09/24/2011 9:19:20 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

I think that that you are correct. My apologies. Thank you for the enlightenment.


272 posted on 09/25/2011 4:14:58 AM PDT by sport
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To: verga; little jeremiah; wintertime
That would be amusing if it weren't so wrong-headed. I am not for tax-financed schools. Period.

If you want to organize a group of people to school your children, and finance it with your own money, go for it. The citizens of this country are under no obligation to pay to educate your children.

273 posted on 09/25/2011 8:00:00 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: verga; trisham; little jeremiah
Great I agree with you 100%, we will close all of the Public schools next Friday, Will you be ready with your charter school Monday morning?

This is a starwman. No one here is calling for the the **immediate** shut down of all government schooling on Monday. The vast majority of conservatives recognize that vouchers, tax credits, charters, and gradually charging increasing amounts of tuition at government schooling are policies that would lead to building a private infrastructure. The goal though should be complete shut down of all government schooling and complete separation of school and state. Personally, I think a transition of 15 to 20 would be sufficient time.

But...Let's say the godless and socialist-funded government schools did close on Monday. What would happen?

There would be chaos for about two weeks, but then private organizations would rally. Larger businesses would open schools on site for the children of their workers. Churches would open low tuition or even completely volunteer run schools. Kinder Care and day care centers of this type would hire teachers and add 1st through 8th grade. Former teachers would open "day care" in their homes but they would really be one-room-schools or mini-schools.

There is one exception: By Wednesday, Mormons would have tuition-free schools staffed by highly motivated, highly competent, and well educated volunteers.

How about you take the offer I have made to wintertime, and that she has refused time after time. I will give you a list of about 15-20 students at my school and you take them for 1 year and prove to me how good your theories are

Have you ever looked at the New York Times section that advertises for summer camps? The **private** market fills every possible need for every type of child imaginable: Diabetic, retarded, cerebral palsy, amputees, cancer victims, delinquents, drug addicts, ADD and ADHD. And there are camps for every possible interest: French camps, tennis, soccer, theater, art, sports camps of every kind.

From your statement it appears that you do not want these difficult children and would like to dump them on me.

In a private system of schooling there really would be teachers who would **love** these children, **welcome** these children, have a **talent* for working with these children. It appears than in your school they are seen as a troublesome burden. Hopefully, the teachers in your can restrain their dislike for these children, because if their contempt and dislike bleed through, it would be CHILD ABUSE to emotionally mistreat them in any way.

274 posted on 09/25/2011 8:26:03 AM PDT by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: LowOiL; verga
Please read my response to verga in post # 274.

It is my response to her suggestion that government schools be closed on Monday, and that you or I should take 15 to 20 of her most difficult students.

275 posted on 09/25/2011 8:29:34 AM PDT by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: verga

I haven’t read every comment on the thread. I can only speak then for my own comments in regards to people telling you to quit; I didn’t say that.

You need some anger management or something.


276 posted on 09/25/2011 9:49:42 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: wintertime; verga; trisham

Wintertime - Very Well Said! (clapping emoticon!!!)


277 posted on 09/25/2011 9:51:54 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: little jeremiah; wintertime
Wintertime - Very Well Said! (clapping emoticon!!!)

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Agreed!

278 posted on 09/25/2011 12:55:00 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: wintertime
Okay; Just so I am clear, once again you are all talk and no action.

You want us do do what you say but you refuse to have any skin in the game.

279 posted on 09/25/2011 3:45:12 PM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: wintertime
It is my response to her suggestion that government schools be closed on Monday, and that you or I should take 15 to 20 of her most difficult students.

This is the third time I ahve had to remind you that I am 100% USDA approved MALE. I realize that you have certain ummmm limitations, but sheesh.

280 posted on 09/25/2011 3:49:44 PM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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