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To: trisham; wintertime

In fact, Ayers and his ilk have been extremely active in public school cirriculum, the Annenberg Foundation was started IIRC specifically to turn the schools left. Ayers realized in the late 70s or so that they could not have a Soviet style armed revolution, so they decided to follow the gradual way, by indoctrinating millions of children in schools. That was on top of the already socialist style public school system and cirriculum.

The idea that kids need 7 or 8 hours a day of incarceration in order to learn the basics is beyond stupid and anyone who teaches kids or even has kids knows this is a damnable lie. I taught kids a lot (and I’m a high school dropout) and it’s amazing how little acutal instruction time you need. You need determination, interest, love for the kids. That’s it. What the teacher doesn’t know, he or she can learn. Books are all over the place - NON-official textbooks. I used to make up my own learn to read books because the regular ones were so horrible.

I realized in the mid 80s when teaching math (which I profoundly hate) that the text books were - seriously - purposely making it hard to learn, to dumb kids down. Absolute fact.

And get this - just recently there was an article on FR - wish I could find it, meant to ping it - about ADD or ADHD or whatever it’s called. It is CURED by having kids spend more time OUTDOORS in unstructured activity!!!!!!

MY GOD! ADD ADHD is caused by being stuck inside watching TV and/or incarcerated in school! Who’d a thunk it! (Junk food diet doesn’t help, I’m sure.)


248 posted on 09/24/2011 4:32:26 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: little jeremiah
Two things:

1) I have never met a homeschooler with ADD or ADHD who has been homeschooled from the beginning.

2) I have never met an obese homeschooler ( or even overweight one) who has been homeschooled from the beginning.

3) And...None of my patients’ parents have ever reported reading dyslexia in any homeschooler who has been homeschooled from the beginning.

I have seen these two pathologies in homeschoolers who have spent some years in government school and then later are pulled out of the school. ( usually due to learning or behavior problems, or conflict with the staff or curriculum) . In my 30 year career, I have likely known well several thousand families.

Yes, I know these are anecdotal observations but I do think it would be worthwhile for this to be examined in a more scientific manner.

252 posted on 09/24/2011 6:18:31 PM PDT by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: little jeremiah
In fact, Ayers and his ilk have been extremely active in public school curriculum,
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Ayers, his wife, and others of his ilk, were promoted and mentored by communists who were the ages of my father ( born 1913) and grandmother ( born 1894). There were Marxist sympathizers already well entrenched in the colleges of education decades before Ayers was even born. Communist moles **knew** very well about their communist and criminal past of Ayers and his minions and actively opened opportunities for these domestic terrorists.

Government schooling was a progressive idea from the early 1800s. Teacher training and curriculum development has always been under the control of progressives and Marxists. The goal was **always** been “progressive” more and more toward secularization and godlessness.

Even in the early sixties when I attended Catholic and then later government high school, there were always teachers who were “edgy” and pushing the envelope. And...There was a reason that FDR and his socialist programs were presented as “saving the nation”. There was a reason that colorful and beautiful photos of the U.N were frequently found around these schools and that every year students competed to be part of the mock-U.N. event.

Socialist, One World, Indoctrination! ALL of it! ....even in the early 60s.

253 posted on 09/24/2011 6:40:53 PM PDT by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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