Posted on 09/23/2011 6:25:35 AM PDT by Lakeshark
I mentioned Rick Perry’s DREAM Act debate blunder in my round-up post.
It gets second place.
The cringe-worthiest moment, by a hair, was when Perry botched what should have been his most potent attack on Mitt Romney’s chronic flip-flopping. As I noted on Twitter when it happened, any random high schooler at the CPAC conference in Washington could have done better than this.
If this is how Perry’s going to take Obama on in debates, we’re in trouble. Someone inject him with some Red Bull and a dash of Herman Cain’s personality.
**snip**
Perry said he’s in favor of making English the official language of the U.S. Perhaps he should concentrate on mastering it before the next debate
(Excerpt) Read more at michellemalkin.com ...
How many potential Republican voters listen to conservative talk radio? That’s where the dialogue among Republican voters takes place these days, and every show so far has discussed last night’s debate extensively. And those coming later in the day will, also. And it’s be discussed more next week, and especially when Rush is on Monday.
I’m crossing a line by defending a pro-life candidate from outright lies and half-truths? Interesting theory there...
It is beginning to look like a lot of covert Romney support is happening on FR.
Very disappointing.
I got ya.
Sell it to the valley farmers. They are diehards.
Too many of them down there love the cultural exchange.
You’ll get no argument from me.
You cannot deal with honest disagreement by other posters. That is not the fault of FR.
Perry blew it last night. That has nothing to do with Romney the Rino.
Carling,
The Admins here are pretty good at sifting out the garbage that simply can’t be tolerated. Just give them time. I was fortunate enough to see one of the Admins the other day who scolded an individual for trying to post a point presented as a fact when the poster could provide no link to prove it was ever truthful. The Admin asked the poster (on the thread) for a link to prove the fact; the poster provided only another FR thread where that poster had tried to plant the lie without factual support on another FR thread; and the Admin removed the information and scolded the poster, saying Free Republic could not tolerate such misrepresentations being touted here as truth as it could harm the reputation and impact of the Free Republic site itself.
Just stick to the facts you know and add real facts when others try to misrepresent things or insert outright lies, and people will be able to tell what is right and what is not. Truth is truth, and truth shines brighter than any dark secret.
He looks like he's dressed up to cruise Gay Bars :-)
Wrong.
You were first of all told to stop calling other posters on that thread liars.
And I pointed out that a section of the article could be construed by some that Perry did lie. You were invited to make your counter-point instead of just running around shrieking that other posters are liars. Instead of accepting that invitation to calmly and politely make your case, you now run to other threads and misrepresent the situation and continue to bad-mouth FR.
Make your case for Perry. Just quit viciously attacking posters who disagree with you. And tone it down a notch. This time of year gets heated enough without folks going ballastic over the open debate over candidates.
lol! You have now crossed over into the land of make believe!
Perry could refuse to any more debates? Like he did in Texas?
Good luck with that.
Also while only about %1.5 watch these debates as you said, the republican portion of the 1/3 of all voters who will watch the Presidential debates are cringing at the idea of Perry being their representative there.
See post 209.
Unlike you, when Perry first came out on FR as a potential candidate I started looking at his record. I was silent, actually quite supportive for the first month, defended him a time or two, thinking he could be a good fallback candidate.
The more I learned of what his record actually was, rather than the hype of him as some uber straight conservative, the more I disliked what I saw. Particularly I disliked his record on illegal immigration, and coupled with his phony crony donor background I decided he wasn't what we needed as our nominee. I've never "smeared" Perry, and have always held to the issues, particularly his problems with illegals, cronyism, and to a lesser degree Gardisil. He has other issues that are problematic, but these are the deal killers to me.
He has now shown the GOP base what a poor candidate he is.
That I chose not to watch the inconsequential debates, but check out governor Perry's ability to debate and think on his feet now shows that I did my research carefully, was correct in my conclusions, i.e. he is not the right candidate for the conservative base.
I'm sorry you can't see the obvious, but even you must have cringed last night........
I chided some of them earlier about that on another thread. They were even discussing who Romney's running mate should be, for crying out freakin' loud.
I am not and will never support Romney and will do anything I can to keep him from being the nominee. He is the worst by far of the bunch. (Well, so is Ron Paul, but he doesn't have a chance.)
As I said before, there seem to be some covert Romney-supporters among us and a couple of them even came out with it last night. I stand by what I posted.
However, because a poster is critical of Perry, it does not therefore mean they are for Romney. At least at this point of the race where there are many candiates still in the race. That is the accusation Carling has been flinging at many Perry critics. And it’s getting over the top.
I think you are misreading this. Most of us are simply disappointed (some disgusted) with the months long build up of Perry as the one to take down Romney, only to find he's not a whole lot better on some of his issues. A lot of people on FR have jumped on the Perry bandwagon early, and are now realizing their mistake, as he seems to not be the super uber conservative communicator he was sold as. His record is not as conservative as his supporters claim and he is certainly horrible at debates.
I doubt any of us are for Romney.
Quite true, but I think her point is that right now bashing Perry helps only Romney.
Which is to be avoided.
We were listening to Laura Ingraham on O’Reilly last night (only because it preceded the debate). She was talking about how the candidates were so into attacking one another, instead of speaking up for America and telling America they understand our fears and will work on our behalf. IOW, someone stepping forward as a leader in our time of trouble.
She was dead on in her remarks. And none of the crop of candidates fills this bill at this time. Maybe one will emerge, I don’t know. But judging from what I’ve seen and read, I’m dubious. The only one I’ve seen with clear-cut statements on issues has been Sarah Palin. But she’s not running - at least yet. But that’s what we need. Not more of the Perry did this, Romney does that. We need a leader to step out from the pack and show he/she is the one we need.
So far, the only one I have any real interest in is Herman Cain. And I have issues with him. I’m waiting...
More like a T H U M P!
Not that I put a lot of stock in poll mumbers.
However, its going to be interesting to see how fast poll numbers really don’t matter to the quasi-popularist Perry folks.
Otherwise, if a strong candidate emerges from the fog Romney is all but irrelavent.He will be polling RP numbers.
He will only get the Yeti vote.
We’re way ahead of ourselves. The 2008 election started so early it’s now become the rule apparently. And everyone jumps on board for their “anointed” candidate when in a usual primary season we’d just now begin to think about it let alone have candidates and debates under our belt.
This whole idea of attacking one another would be a joke if it wasn’t so disruptive. But here we are. I’m paying little attention other than doing a lot of reading on candidates, listening to them when possible, and waiting to see how it all rolls out. I have a couple I’m interested in (one who isn’t a candidate...yet). But that’s it. The time for conviction and invective will come. But it isn’t now. Even though some believe it is.
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