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EPA to property owner: 'Your land is our land' ($40 million in fines pending)
WorldNetDaily ^ | Sept. 23, 2011 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 09/24/2011 10:12:35 AM PDT by WilliamIII

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To: WilliamIII

Anything the EPA does should have to have a cost/benefit analysis.


41 posted on 09/24/2011 12:08:19 PM PDT by ontap
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To: Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; albertp; Alexander Rubin; Allosaurs_r_us; amchugh; ...
The couple would have to meet the demands of the "compliance order" and pay the $250,000 to apply for a building permit, then challenge the eventual decision. Or they could expose themselves to $37,500 per day in fines by refusing to cooperate.

So anybody want to guess how long before the EPA's swat team raids this couple's home demanding the deed on the property? That might be funny if I was actually joking.



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42 posted on 09/24/2011 12:11:28 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: ravenwolf

Yeah, I know what you mean!

Just about every entity, be it a bank or a car insurance company gives you a 15 day grace period. Not the government though. No, pay us or the threats begin. The stooge that my husband talked to on the phone kept going back to “but the law allows, blah, blah”. My husband had than brought up “common sense” and the wise use of it. Needless to say, she didn’t like that very much.

We are a largely Republican area and yet we still have to deal with these snotty little government workers with way too much power at their disposal. At this point, I might side with the anarchists too.


43 posted on 09/24/2011 12:13:14 PM PDT by Mrs. Frogjerk
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk
i thought we were the only one with 'garbage court' [as the deputy referenced the court summons he was serving] except yer is prolly called crapper court...

the above summons was prolly enuff to get a bench warrant for failure to appear and/or pay, and im cant recall if they considered the non-payment to a private garbage company to be a 'tax/lien' offense or not, but it would simply carry the death penalty if i refused to 'comply' so its disgusting either way...

44 posted on 09/24/2011 12:13:44 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: muawiyah

Here’s a thought for everyone. The federal government is not permitted to purchase state land except with the explicit permission of the state.
A simple legal expedient would be to identify any case where EPA is demanding someone do something that involves land, and create a protective temporary state ownership over that land.

End of story. EPA would need to go to the state, through Justice Department, to talk about a deal.


The problem is that people needs to go to the polls and clean all of the communists out of state governments first or the states will not do that. at any rate the e.p.a, i.r.s and a.t.f and about a hundred other government agency’s need abolished as a starter.


45 posted on 09/24/2011 12:16:01 PM PDT by ravenwolf (Just a bit of the long list of proofsr)
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To: bamahead

unbelievable.


46 posted on 09/24/2011 12:21:06 PM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: WilliamIII
This is what we all can expect when the UN's "Green helmets" start enforcing their Global Warming "offsets."

Take a look at In Scramble for Land, Group Says, Company Pushed Ugandans Out

47 posted on 09/24/2011 12:26:10 PM PDT by NJ_Tom (I don't worship the State; I don't worship the Environment - I worship GOD!)
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To: Gilbo_3

“Garbage Court”! Good grief!

They don’t actually give out citations for not paying the sewerage authority quick enough. They go straight for the lien/tax property auction instead.

I tell ya, they have really “crappy” attitudes at the sewerage authority!


48 posted on 09/24/2011 12:27:41 PM PDT by Mrs. Frogjerk
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To: WilliamIII
...DOJ, Enough said. Eric Holder, fit name for a man who has citizens by the short hairs...

...We urinate anywhere...

49 posted on 09/24/2011 12:52:07 PM PDT by gargoyle (...This looks like a good fight, deal me in...)
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To: WilliamIII

The EPA needs to be disbanded and all employees given pink slips. I would have no problem with having all of their managers arrested and thrown in jail for life, either.


50 posted on 09/24/2011 12:55:42 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: WilliamIII

A couple of comments to several posters:

1. I am not sure there are any scientists at the EPA. I think that the research is outsourced to academia. The EPA is now almost entirely paper shufflers and lawyers.
2. The EPA functions as the EPA for a number of countries and has many overseas offices. Honduras is one I know of and the rules for cutting down trees are very draconian and require permits throughout the country. I have no idea if we are reimbursed for the cost of those offices.
3. The EPA had a terrific effect on air quality 50 years ago, but they are running out of things to do and they are moving farther afield with bad administrative actions. They need to be cut back and possibly eliminated.


51 posted on 09/24/2011 1:07:30 PM PDT by texmexis best
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To: VRW Conspirator

The EPA must be completely and totally destroyed not merely reigned in. The Employees of the EPA deserve serous jail time.

It is not acceptable to leave this unconstitutional monstrosity in place. It’s criminal members aut to be jailed for the things they have done.


52 posted on 09/24/2011 1:16:32 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: PeterPrinciple
"And they are all incompetent with no REAL work to do so they are trying to look competent..."

They have plenty of work to do. They are all busy day and night implementing U.N. Agenda 21 to eliminate private property ownership and eventually control all open space and waterways in America.

Anyone who doubts this simply needs to look and learn. You will find direct language from the U.N. ICLEI charter being written into local ordinances in every American community.

53 posted on 09/24/2011 1:18:07 PM PDT by Baynative (The penalty for not participating in politics is you will be governed by your inferiors.)
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To: Natural Law
No person shall be.....deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Typical evil terrorist teabagger.....quoting some useless old document to make a point / S

54 posted on 09/24/2011 1:26:17 PM PDT by Popman (Obama is God's curse upon the land....)
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To: WilliamIII
The ability to own property is the fundamental under pinning of our freedoms...

CWII is coming....

55 posted on 09/24/2011 1:31:08 PM PDT by Popman (Obama is God's curse upon the land....)
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To: exDemMom

Problem is, there’s STILL no Constitutional authority reorganization even THAT. And EPA has been evil since its illegal inception under Nixon.


56 posted on 09/24/2011 1:47:50 PM PDT by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE)
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The Sackett property
57 posted on 09/24/2011 1:55:27 PM PDT by deks ("...the battle of our time is the battle of liberty against the overreach of the federal government")
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To: Scotsman will be Free

How can we defund the EPA? Can Congress do it? Can stete governments do it?


58 posted on 09/24/2011 2:07:51 PM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Judith Anne

It’s a federal agency in this case so congress can defund it. Many states also have a state EPA agency. They can be defunded by the state legislature.


59 posted on 09/24/2011 2:17:37 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Baynative; Rapscallion
 

http://www.adversity.net/fed_stats/fednews_EPA.htm

 

Fact 1: The EPA is perhaps the most pro-minority, aggressive advocate of racial preferences and quotas in the federal government. The agency is headed by Carol M. Browner, a Clinton appointee, a feminist, a liberal Democrat, and a dyed in the wool promoter of racial preferences.

Fact 2: According to the Office of Personnel Management, the EPA has actually over-hired blacks to the tune of 179% percent more blacks than in the civilian workforce.  Also, according to EPA records, the overall agency work force consists of 29% minorities.

Fact 3: Since 1993 EPA has had in place an aggressive, race-based hiring and promotion policy that has achieved a 115% to 300% increase in minority jobs in the agency, according to the agency’s own statistics.

Fact 4: According to EPA official Romulo L. Diaz, since 1993, EPA has received only 623 discrimination complaints (including proven, unproven, denied, upheld, and/or settled claims) out of a total workforce of 17,000.  For reference, 623 discrimination complaints divided by 17,000 employees equals 3.67% of all employees filed a discrimination complaint against EPA.

Fact 5: The Republicans on the U.S. House Committee on Science have been using the Adebayo case, among others, to vigorously attack EPA’s record on diversity!  Republicans!  The Democrats on the committee have been complaining that the Republicans are conducting some kind of witch hunt.


Adebayo's Real Motivation

          According to EPA employees who know Ms. Adebayo, the real motivation behind her lawsuit was that EPA turned down her request to work for Jesse Jackson for a year while continuing to receive her generous EPA paycheck.

          According to Adversity.Net's sources at EPA, Ms. Adebayo had become close to Jackson, who maintains a residence in Washington, DC.  She got it in her head that EPA should pay her to leave the agency and work directly for Jackson for a year, performing unspecified duties.

          Only after EPA justifiably denied Adebayo's strange request did she file a racial discrimination lawsuit against the agency.   Neither her lawsuit nor her highly publicized testimony before the House Science Committee mentioned her bizarre request to work for Jesse Jackson while on EPA’s payroll.

          Instead, Adebayo came up with the following allegations for which no corroboration has been publicly released:


U.S. House Republicans Attack EPA's Racial Fairness!

          Why have Republican U.S. Representatives loudly and publicly excoriated EPA for a poor record on minority hiring and promotions?

          Conversely, why have Democratic U.S. Representatives loudly complained that the Republicans' quest for "better minority treatment" at EPA is nothing more than a political gambit, a charade, a cynical witch hunt?

          These public statements may hold a clue:

Republicans: "While we do not expect Administrator Browner to prevent every misdeed, we do expect the administrator to ensure that appropriate disciplinary actions occur and that claims are adequately investigated. EPA managers of officials that have been found to discriminate, harass and intimidate other EPA employees or the public should be disciplined. That does not appear to happen." (Chairman of the House Science Committee F. James Sensenbrenner (R-Wis) as quoted by AP.)

Democrats: "... I do not believe the Committee has gathered sufficient information to determine whether these cases represent isolated instances of problems or are indeed evidence of widespread discrimination problems at this agency." (U.S. Representative Jerry F. Costello (D-Ill.) as quoted by AP.)

Republicans: "This administration will be going out of office in a little bit more than three months. I think it is important that you spend your personal time between now and January 20th cleaning up this mess so that the new president and whoever he appoints as EPA administrator does not get a can of garbage to start out a new administration." -- Chairman Jim Sensenbrenner (R-Wis.), speaking to EPA Administrator Carol Browner.

Democrats: "In this venue [the House Science Committee hearings] ... I do not see the sincerity of this committee; instead, I see a political stunt that is truly regrettable in my eyes." -- U.S. Representative Bernice Johnson (D-Tex.).

NAACP: "The careers of an excessive number of black scientists and other minority employees at EPA have been unjustly devastated. Numerous cries for help to EPA officials and the EPA administrator were basically ignored." -- Leroy W. Warren Jr., chairman of the NAACP Federal Sector Task Force.

          Aren’t these roles reversed? Normally one expects Democrats to be crying wolf when a minority charges racial discrimination. Similarly one expects Republicans to be skeptical about affirmative action issues.

          And certainly it is totally out of character for the NAACP to be criticizing the EPA which is perhaps the most aggressively pro-minority, pro-quota agency in the federal government.

Racial Politics Explains All:   The explanation for this bizarre role-reversal between the parties is simple and obvious:  This is a high-stakes election year.  Republicans are attempting to gain as many minority votes, and especially as many black votes, as possible.  The House Science Committee hearings represent a strategy by Republicans to convince black voters that Democrats are not pursuing racial hiring quotas as vigorously as possible, and that the Republicans -- and by extension George W. Bush -- are the true friends of blacks while the Democrats are not.

60 posted on 09/24/2011 2:25:27 PM PDT by dennisw (nzt - works better if you're already smart)
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