Skip to comments.Herman Cain wins Florida straw poll in stunning victory; Rick Perry in deep trouble
Posted on 09/24/2011 5:24:39 PM PDT by iowamark
From the bottom of the polls to the top of the pack, businessman Herman Cain won the Republican Party of Floridas nationally watched presidential straw poll Saturday in a sign that frontrunner Rick Perry is in deep trouble.
Cains victory with 37 percent of the vote was a major defeat for Perry, the frontrunner in Florida and national polls, who garnered only 15 percent after wooing the nearly 3,000 party faithful with a free breakfast and mailers.
The vote also showed how soft Republican support is for Mitt Romney, who came in third with 14 percent. Unlike Perry, though, he avoided schmoozing the GOP voters, called delegates.
"Folks, this is what you call momentum," Cain, the former CEO of Godfathers Pizza, said in a video message from his campaign bus. "The Herman Cain train is picking up steam."
That means more national media attention, heightened standing in the race and access to more fundraisers.
The straw poll is a mock election and doesnt necessarily reflect the sentiment of the voters at large. In past years, it has predicted the partys national nominee, but that streak could be in jeopardy because even some Cain voters had doubts about whether he was ready to be the partys nominee.
Still, the vote is a major indication of how badly damaged Perry was by a poor debate performance Thursday when he fumbled answers and failed to give specifics.
Many straw poll voters were especially dissatisfied by the answers Perry gave over his moderate immigration position, the Ponzi scheme of Social Security and his plan to inoculate girls from human papillomavirus.
I came in thinking Rick Perry, said Tommy Langford,a Gilchrist County commissioner who voted for Cain. I didnt like the debate at all. I really thought Perry lost it. Mitt Romney called him on immigration. He said we have to take care of them. Not if theyre illegal, we dont.
Another big loser: Michele Bachmann, who came in last place. Once a top-tier candidate who won the Iowa straw poll, she has fallen from sight in the debates where she, too, fails to give specifics, excite delegates here or even reach out to them.
Perry issued a written statement congratulating Cain, saying the vote underscored the fact that the conservative message of job creation, fiscal responsibility and limited government is gaining momentum.
Floridians and voters nationally want a candidate who is clear on the issues and talks honestly about the future, Perry said, not someone who takes multiple sides of an issue and changes views every election season. Todays vote demonstrates that Floridians are energized and ready to help get America working again.
Pinellas County delegate Rachelle Warmouth said that, if Perry lost, it wouldnt be the end of his campaign. But when or lose, the debate performance and the effect its having on party loyalists are a call to step up his game.
Hell have to have a strong recovery, she said. He needs to focus on his message.
Warmouths friend, Eileen Blackmer, agreed: He needs to work on the three Cs: Be clear, be concise, be complete.
Lee County delegate Dane Eagle said hes for Romney. He likes the candidates message and polish on stage. And he fears that President Obama would walk all over Perry in debates.
Thats what Obama does, Eagle said. He debates.
St. Johns County delegate Randy Covington said he arrived in Orlando ready to vote for Perry, but the debate "shattered" that plan. Covington decided to support Cain after the businessman"s rousing speech on Saturday at the Conservative Political Action Conference. That event was wedged in between the partys Presidency 5 Thursday debate and Saturday straw poll.
But Convington said he wasnt sure if Cain would or should be the nominee. He said the primary shouldnt be a two-man race.
"We need this process to go on," Covington said.
Gov. Rick Scott, who announced the results from the Orange County Convention Center stage, said the candidates need to take very seriously whatever the results are.
"It shows you something. Florida is important," Scott said from the Orange County Convention Center stage. "It pays to be here."
Where’s all the perrywinkles you ask? They were legion here on FR only just recently?
They have moved over to the La Raza homepage to help organize a reconquista rally.
>>> You continue to speculate on Palin as VP for Cain. Sounds good at first, but makes NO sense at all.
Well, fortunately for me it’s just that... speculation.
A lot of people have been wondering why she hasn’t jumped in yet.... THAT is what doesn’t make sense to me... unless she already has a position zipped up.
I don’t know... maybe she’s just playing decoy.
If she is, she’s doing a great job of it.
herman earned it.
I find Cain to be very impressive. Strong conservative that never waivers from his beliefs. Loved his comments on the EPA and his hit back at Morgan Freeman over the Tea Party remarks. Cain, Newt, Perry are my top 3 ..Santorum came on strong during the last debate too.
It’s the Perry Shamnesty, Loser!
and Michelle Gardasil’s butt even more than that.
I love this.
The idea of putting a real CEO in charge of the Executive Branch following a proven business plan (the Constitution of the United States of America) - seems fitting.
“Cain is more than able” is a good one too
This shows that the Republican field is still very fluid, but what was the factor that lifted Cain to the top here?
Herman Cain's win in Florida just goes to show how much the people want a president who is not of the beltway crowd. Once Palin enters the race, she'll become the one to beat. (but they won't)
Cain has elevated himself to be a strong choice for her VP.
IMHO the very same factor, which led to the GOP sweep in the last elections...
This is a very encouraging day.
No way Cain won. All of us Florida republicans are racist from what the media tells us
That was a good one
Would you want me to vote for ANYONE with an R after their name?
I'm sure you don't.
People are sick of professional pandering politicians.
(Thanks but can’t take credit for the idea, I’ll sure put one on my car though.)
I like it.
Cain vs Unable
So Texas and New York and Florida should not be allowed to decide for themselves in regards to gay marriage?
The Federal Government should decided and then cram the "One Size Fits All" decision down the throat of all 50 States?
Be very, very careful about trampling State's Rights in favor of increasing Federal Government Power because the results you WILL get are NOT what you apparently THINK you will get.
Majority of Americans support gay marriage in poll ..... Fifty-three percent of Americans support making gay marriage legal, a Gallup poll showed on Friday, a marked reversal from just a year ago when an equal majority opposed same-sex matrimony.
Perry's position is keeping gay marriage out of Florida.
Your wish to strip States of the right to decide about gay marriage for themselves and to hand that power over to the Federal Government would be bringing gay marriage to Florida whether Florida wants it or not.
Cain scored higher than Perry and Romney combined.
You made my night. Exactly! It is through the states things will change!
THE winning ticket
Oh I get it. Cain's just a seat saver for Sarah Palin. Once all the debating ends she will jump in he will endorse her. Sort of like winning by default. Excellent strategy!
Plus he can beat the living hell out of the Socialist-Democrat candidate.
As in, "Has never won a single election in his entire life".
After the Obama disaster, "Zero Experience" doesn't sound so unimportant anymore.
I have been a Cain supporter since the first debate. I noticed then, and as always, that he does not get into the "fray" when it comes to picking on, or degrading other GOP candidates. He is straight business, very direct and concise with his answers, very sure of himself, and maintains his composure. All marks of a true leadership abilities...which his record of achievements proves 100%.
HERMAN is OUR MAN ! CAIN IS ABLE !
“Why does this mean Perry is in trouble and not Romney?”
I understand your point. But it’s a fair conclusion. Romney has tons of money, a bunch of open primaries, and the almost unanimous support of the R establishment and the old media, who can be relied on to anonymously slag anyone other than Romney. And, NH is coming up and it’s one of the RINO’est primaries around. Thus, Romney has a quick momentum booster and the money to last to NH.
OTOH, Perry gets clobbered in a conservative state after a very weak debate performance. He will not do well in NH regardless. I don’t know what his money situation is like but it just got a lot worse and he has to last to SC to have a chance at a more conservative state.
Air coming out of the tire.
I will be very, very interested to see what Palin says about Florida.
The reason this doesn’t matter for Romney is because he is the lead liberal and Perry was the lead conservative. Now Cain is lead conservative. obviously, the party could stilll go liberal. Remember Dole, W, HW Bush, etc.
Now that there is funny, I don’t care who you are!
I think that's the whole plan. A good one too!
I like Cain and Santorum. I also think they would make a good combo. I’m off the Sarah and Michelle ftrain.
I think she’s waiting for the “front” runners to shoot themselves in the foot. They’re doing a good job given the debate. Palin & Cain would make a formidable team! Imagine how the left would twist themselves into knots! Their running meme is conservatives are sexist and racist. Plus they’d be tying themselves in knots trying not to appear racist/sexist themselves. I don’t think she’ll play second fiddle to anyone, though. She’s already done that.
A concern: for the remaining debates - the questions need to be equally distributed. I refuse to watch another Mittens & Perrywinkle tango!
Since Cain is on my short list, I am thrilled!
Some were certainly hasty in thinking it would be either Perry or Romney. It’s still early!
The last President who was ran a bisiness was Carter. Think about it.b Maybe this time it’s different.
But I do not like a VAT as it has been done in Britain.
Cain would have been over 50% if he’d lose the mustache. So 1970s.
That said, I’d vote for him regardless of facial hair, but if Sarah gets in, he’s got to go VP. I vote for whomever the liberals hate/fear most.
I’ll the Rick Perry in 2012 bumper sticker on my car. Would love to see Cain in his cabinet.
I WILL put that on my car! LOL
No, you don't get it, but that's okay. I expect Cain will fight tooth and nail to get the nomination. He isn't anyone's "seat saver". However, Palin is the superior candidate and that fact will be proved when the time comes. Meanwhile, the better Herman Cain does going through the whole primary process, the better he'll look as a possible veep choice. It isn't a "strategy", it's a prediction on my part. Based on what I know as of today, I could support a Palin/Cain ticket.
BTW, ever notice how many posters here are like sheep? Perry announces and they all run to him. Cain wins a straw poll and they all run to him. Another prediction, those same people will flock to Palin when she clears the deck of the wannabes. They can all thank us then for our unwavering support.(not that it's necessary, helping Palin get elected is a labor of love)
I said agenda, and agenda means not just marriage but don’t ask etc.
Now I thought I was clear about that and was very careful not to confine it to just marriage.
See when the feds have to deal with the queer agenda then it involves many aspects of Govt and our lives
I am not voting for anyone who seriously proposes a nine percent national sales tax.
How many electoral votes would Alaska be able to deliver? ..... tsowellfan
What makes you think that Palin would deliver Alaska to our side instead of delivering Alaska to Obama?
July 7, 2011: Gov. Sarah Palin has an approval rating of less than 40 percent among Alaskans. ... The Moore poll gives Palin a 39 percent positive rating and 49 percent negative rating among Alaskans. Twelve percent said they were neutral.
June 29, 2011 ---- Poll: Sarah Palin Would Lose Alaska To Obama ..... A new Hays Research poll shows Barack Obama would beat Sarah Palin among Alaskans if the presidential election was today. ..... The poll found 42 percent of Alaskan voters would pick or are learning toward Obama in a head to head race against Palin for the presidency, while 36 percent of the voters would choose or are leaning toward Palin over him. ..... Conservative Anchorage radio host Mike Porcaro paid for Hays Research to ask the question. ..... Sarah Palin showcases her Alaska roots at every opportunity, but the surprising reality is she has become highly unpopular in her home state, Porcaro said in an emailed statement.