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You Palinbots are stupid. The key for this election is to get at least 4% of the people who voted for Obama. Basically we need the moderate Dems and the indies.. Of course idiots like you think if Sarah wins the primary that is it..


34 posted on 09/25/2011 8:38:18 PM PDT by KevinDavis (What has Ron Paul done in Congress??)
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To: KevinDavis
You Palinbots are stupid. The key for this election is to get at least 4% of the people who voted for Obama. Basically we need the moderate Dems and the indies.. Of course idiots like you think if Sarah wins the primary that is it..

Extra points for using intelligent persuasion, reason, and logic to bring us Palin supporters over to your way of thinking.

Stupid? Idiots? You just lost whatever argument you were trying to make, pal.

And by the way, Palin's support among Independents has leaped in the last month, or haven't you been following the news?

44 posted on 09/25/2011 8:49:54 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: KevinDavis

I know everyone has their favorite candidate candidate,, and since you so “eloquently” made your case against Palin, who would you suggest? Someone the moderate Dems and indies can vote for...Hmmm sounds like you want a RINO?!

BTW, the insults and name-calling on a pro-palin thread are really getting old. Seriously, you don’t have to to be so rude and insulting. Calling people idiots and stupid is low-brow.


68 posted on 09/25/2011 9:18:12 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: KevinDavis
KevinDavis wrote:
The key for this election is to get at least 4% of the people who voted for Obama. Basically we need the moderate Dems and the indies..
Sorry, but you are misinformed.

First, it's not about the popular vote totals. It's about electoral votes. With the Census and redistricting and reallocation of House seats, if we had an exact rerun of 2008, with exactly the same states going to Obama and McCain, Obama has already lost about 10 electoral votes, I think. More of the states Obama carried lost electoral votes than gained. McCain states gained more than they lost. Still, Republicans need to flip some states. Florida (29 EV) is important, so are Ohio (18 EV) and Pennsylvania (20 EV). Even Colorado (9 EV) and New Mexico (5 EV) can help.

This is one reason that Rubio is considered likely to be the VP no matter who gets the nomination. Florida is critical. It's probably the largest block of electoral votes that Obama had in 2008 that are in play and vulnerable in 2012.

Also, we need some of the people who were so turned off by McCain that they stayed home in 2008. Palin actually minimized that damage in 2008, but some conservatives did not vote for McCain in 2008. The Republicans are far more likely to win in 2012 if they can keep their base motivated than by trying to "convert" Obama voters. Don't get me wrong, I do think some Obama voters will switch to the Republican side in 2012, especially among the independents. They will likely go for "anybody but Obama." But that shouldn't be the focus of the Republican candidate. If you think that alone will carry the election, you're following a losing strategy.

76 posted on 09/25/2011 9:32:55 PM PDT by cc2k ( If having an "R" makes you conservative, does walking into a barn make you a horse's (_*_)?)
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To: KevinDavis

Do you think the dims can get the turnout they did last time? I don’t see the excitement there for Obama anymore even among his supporters.

I also wonder how many conservatives couldn’t hold their nose and vote for McCain and just stayed home.

I think the key is turnout for both dims and Rs. That has proven to be more important than polls and percentages based on prior elections.


104 posted on 09/25/2011 11:22:12 PM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: KevinDavis

And calling people stupid and idiot advances the debate how?

Cindie


107 posted on 09/25/2011 11:34:39 PM PDT by gardencatz (Proud mom US Marine! It can't always be someone else's son.)
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