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Bombshell: DOJ Considering Elimination of ATF (ATF? WTF?)
Townhall ^ | 09/30/2011 | Katie Palich

Posted on 09/30/2011 2:59:57 PM PDT by PhilosopherStone1000

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To: filbert

This thing goes all the way to the top

...and that is precisely where the buck stops. NO PUN INTENDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


101 posted on 10/01/2011 1:30:52 PM PDT by wita
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To: Lockbox

FBI controls gun sales not ATF!


102 posted on 10/01/2011 1:38:20 PM PDT by eastforker
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To: cornfedcowboy; PhilosopherStone1000

Ping me if it’s on a thread. I wanna know, too.


103 posted on 10/01/2011 2:04:59 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

Revenge for the whistle-blowing or attempt to bury the whole mess? Or both?


104 posted on 10/01/2011 2:07:15 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: dead
Dude.

1. You are correct, and

2. You crack me up.

105 posted on 10/01/2011 2:28:14 PM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made out of liberals...)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000
According to sources, the paper outlines the firing of at least 450 ATF agents in an effort to conduct damage control as Operation Fast and Furious

Now, this sounds preposterous given the someone at the top gave the orders, ATF agents carry them out. Therefore, someone or lots of people at the top need to exit, forcefully if necessary.

Is there any real doubt that Obama was well aware of this plan? There is simply no way that someone would implement this sort of program on their own. I'm thinking that Obama is stupid-smart and there are so many examples to cite. Of course, this one is stupid-stupid.

106 posted on 10/01/2011 3:02:26 PM PDT by existentialist
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To: eastforker

I assume that you are referring to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, or NICS which is handled by the FBI. The ATF aids in the enforcement of Federal requirements for gun purchases. Like so many Government laws, there are multiple agencies involved in the management and regulation of a law.


107 posted on 10/01/2011 3:08:56 PM PDT by Lockbox (`)
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To: existentialist

White House Insider (Ulsterman’s anonymous “source” - unfortunately Ulsterman can’t be linked here because he got zotted a couple years ago) was amazed at how brazenly open Holder has become in the ongoing cover-ups.

It’s either stupidity or terror at what’s going to come down the pike.

Solargate, Fast and Furious and we still have bodies buried in Chicago (Rezko, Blogavich) just waiting for Holder to leave so the files can be opened up.

This is the end game. It may be better, all that being said, to let the electorate deal with all this next November than risk a race war by forcing Dumb0 and his cronies out. And BTW, this stinks of Valerie Jarrett. Dumb0 is too lazy and stupid to think of this stuff on his own.


108 posted on 10/01/2011 3:09:27 PM PDT by PhilosopherStone1000
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To: blasater1960

>I’m with you. ATF and homeland security both should go. Stick with the basic FBI and police forces...back to the basics...that should be plenty good!<

Just a reminder .. the whole gunwalker mess was done with an FBI informant. The FBI was the ones who set this whole mess up. They were the ones who gave the green lights to the sales in the databases.

How many whistle blowers came out of the FBI???

It was ATF agents who went to congress not the FBI ... who STILL have been silent on the whole thing.

be careful what you ask for you may just get it.


109 posted on 10/01/2011 3:22:17 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000
This is the end game. It may be better, all that being said, to let the electorate deal with all this next November than risk a race war by forcing Dumb0 and his cronies out. And BTW, this stinks of Valerie Jarrett. Dumb0 is too lazy and stupid to think of this stuff on his own.

Cool plan and it does appear that a Republican will be in charge come January 2013. I was wondering if Obama continued the practice of recording everything that happens in the Oval Office, like Nixon....now, that would be some fun stuff to review!

As an aside, even I was snookered into thinking that having Obama as POTUS had an upside in that the 'race' thing would finally subside, but that didn't even happen and in fact it's much worse with something coming up practically every 5 minutes since he was elected.

I just want him off my TV, plus now Obama is storming the country (spending a ton of taxpayer funds) to "educate" us dumb white crackers so that we will pressure our Tea Party-influenced Republican representatives to support another pork-riddled fiscal train wreck, which is diametrically opposite as to why we voted for them in the first place. How stupid is that?

These are more than passingly strange days, politically speaking (and economically speaking, also).

110 posted on 10/01/2011 3:27:16 PM PDT by existentialist
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To: dead

Alcohol goes to FDA.
Tobacco goes to Ag.
Firearms goes to the 2nd Amendment and we get rid of the GOA of 1968.


111 posted on 10/01/2011 4:33:17 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: MonicaG

“Shhhh! Haha,”

LOL. OK


112 posted on 10/01/2011 4:52:21 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: traditional1
Why not eliminate the DOE for the Solyndra sham, and the NEA for the failed eductaion system? How about the EPA, for the drastic economic and private property Rights elimination?

A good start....

113 posted on 10/01/2011 9:13:09 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: traditional1

Don’t forget Agriculture for the Pigford racism and follow on corruption.


114 posted on 10/02/2011 4:29:25 AM PDT by donmeaker (e is trancendental)
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To: dusttoyou

They’re all over...google “ATF Who’s Bringing The Chips”


115 posted on 10/03/2011 4:58:30 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

This admin routinely reverses itself. I pray this is true and remains so.


116 posted on 10/03/2011 5:05:31 AM PDT by Daffynition (“There are no compacts between lions and men, and wolves and lambs have no concord.” ~ Homer)
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