Posted on 10/02/2011 4:45:25 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
The US government should consider sending troops to Mexico to combat drug-related violence, Texas Governor Rick Perry, who is seeking the Republican nomination for US president, said Sunday.
"It may require our military in Mexico working in concert with them to kill these
At present Barack Obama’s administration is providing serious financial support to Mexican security services, while the security services of two countries are closely cooperation, Radio Liberty reports.
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It doesn’t mean we have to shut down trade but controlling the border does mean a virtual lockdown. In fact, doing so would probably cause Mexico to shut down trade which is fine with me if they want to starve themselves into fixing their own problems.
Fact is, sealing the pressure valve will force Mexico to deal with its problems one way or the other.
PLEASE explain the rules.
I have not been given the RULES.
Give me a LINK to the rules.
Does this only apply to Perry threads?
“I wouldn’t put one single soldier in Mexico. I would put as many as necessary on the border and give them whatever they needed to stop illegal immigration.”
I think that would be my preference. Not only because of shutting off the immigration, but just as importantly, to shut off the drug flow. If the flow of drugs is essentially stopped, that obviates the need for any troops in Mexico.
I don’t think Mexico can deal with the problem. Of course that doesn’t mean America needs to do it for them.
It is in our interest to have a strong & friendly neighbor which we don’t have in Mexico. Sealing the pressure valve will likely result in a higher level of violence initially. Perhaps out and out war.
Sure. Any Mexican president is going to sign off on hordes of gringo troops crawling all over his country. What's not to like about that?
“Have you read one thread of mine where I’m not accused of awful things — been insulted in some of the nastiest ways, or had the thread balled up with repeated disruptive photos or misinformation?”
Sure. That’s how we work. Most of your comments are pasted in and it annoys people to have to keep reading the same things over and over. As to being called nasty things...I’ve had problems with Perry for 5 years now, and I’ve posted on them here. You should hear what I get called, especially in the beginning. That’s simply part of the game...there’s a lot of worked up people out there on all sides.
“I don’t do that. So when I say something generic like I feel a poster is on the thread to disrupt effective dissemination of information and it causes you to go ballistic, it really is beyond the pale. It would be laughable, if it wasn’t so wrong.”
I went ballistic, in part, because of what I had to deal with last night. I commented and actually supported Perry (in a snide way, of course), and then put in my TWO-WORD exception, which was, ready, “the borders”. For that I was screamed at and reported to Admin. So, yes, I do now have a thin skin and will not put up with people acting as thread police, when they don’t like a response (particularly if the response is short).
I could sign on to an idea like that. Unfortunately the Army and Marines are tied up at the moment. They're either deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan, just returned from Iraq or Afghanistan, or getting ready to deploy to Iraq or Afghanistan.
“PLEASE explain the rules.
I have not been given the RULES.
Give me a LINK to the rules.
Does this only apply to Perry threads? “
You’ve been here a decade, I have a feeling you know the rules and don’t need my help. I’ve also seen you get BLASTED by JR himself, so you obviously don’t have a problem ignoring those rules.
Common sense. Half the people there still hate us from the Mexican-American War. No Mexican president is going to allow U.S. troops into his country. Not if he wants to keep his office. And his head.
“Time for another Black Jack Pershing and a young Douglas MacArthur to invade Mexico and do the lousy Mexican government’s job for them.”
Actually, you’re quite right.
Eventually, it will become our only option, to send troops down into Mexico to clean the place up.
Fearless prediction: if the Mexican government opposes, the Mexican army will last all of 20 minutes against American advances.
Cleaning out the drug gangs will take considerably more effort.
This is coming, folks, whether we like it or not.
Whether one likes or dislikes Mr. Perry, he spoke the truth on this issue.
Just sayin’...
I’d suggest that the security of our country is more dependent on what happens in Mexico than what happens in Afghanistan. Perhaps not 10 years ago, but certainly today.
Dependent enough to go to war with them?
But no fence! Not gonna happen. How are you going to seal it w/o a fence? His reason for not wanting to pay for a fence is going to be the same for putting boots on the ground at the border...who will pay for it?
He's just giving us lip sevice. We all heard Perry not back down from illegals paying in-state tuition and not wanting a fence. Let alone, saying AZ illegal immigration laws aren't for TX.
This guy isn't going to do any more to protect our border than Ah-nold did!
I want to learn all I can about these politicians, the bad, the beautiful and the detailed. These posts are useful to me in many, many ways.
For these efforts the posters are often scorned, belittled, even savaged for performing a service which I, for one, find invaluable....just because they favor a certain candidate.
I've never seen such a level of vitriol in the thirteen years I've been on this forum as that emanating from some of the slavish devotees of one candidate or another against someone supporting another candidate.
The hostility evinced toward a supporter of another candidate seems to trigger in some an innate rage and an urge to name-call and insult that is evident on almost every primary election thread now being posted on FR. This is shameful. But shame doesn't seem to enter into any equation any more.
Leni
It’s a contested Primary. One candidate has a lot of money and his supporters are getting tired of having to constantly answer for him, and wish we’d all just go away. But it’s politics. I think that most people can put aside the nasty stuff and still learn a lot of facts about the candidates, in order to make an informed choice.
Things will quiet down after the primary season, don’t worry about it.
Thank you.
No. You stated that there are rules about how you can post to different threads.
I am asking you to say what they are.
You said people can post one way on some threads and another way on other threads.
I’m asking you straight out to to tell me the rules.
What rules are for what kind of threads, which candidate threads, who posts the threads??? — how that works.
You are not a shrinking violet so let’s not get coy now.
If I am out of line, breaking rules, help me out. TELL ME WHAT THEY ARE!
lol lol lol Grow up. You know darn well the Israeli fence is doing a fantastic job...... Like all serious border fences it is patrolled and enforced by their military and the Israeli border agents. We do the same and we'll do great. Rick Perry should wise up and come out in favor of a border fence, otherwise he is toast! He is finished!
See this Israeli border fence. What's not to love! Wake up Rick Perry!
The same dynamic happens every election cycle, only (some of) the names change. Was also pretty interesting around the Harriet Miers nomination; and there is ample vitriol in the birther threads.
Not that you should do what I do, but vitriolic exchanges present an opportunity to do some independent fact-checking, and then deciding (without necessarily saying anything) which posters are spinning. That helps the reading filter chore for the long run.
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