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1 posted on 10/07/2011 1:55:09 PM PDT by ColdOne
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2 posted on 10/07/2011 1:55:49 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: ColdOne

Holder is a first class liar. Research his lies concerning the Marc Rich pardon and how he disregarded normal pardon procedures to bring the request directly to Slick Willie without ever running it through DOJ. Removal from office is too gently for Holder. When Cain wins the presidency in November 2010, I predict the DOJ will be returned to its mission of UPHOLDING and ENFORCING our laws, followed by prosecutions of most of the Zero administration.


3 posted on 10/07/2011 1:59:22 PM PDT by majormaturity
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"So what, a couple hundred dead Mexicans, and we lose a couple of our guys too, so what?

You can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, y'know.

We gotta do something to get control of all those guns out there."

/s

4 posted on 10/07/2011 2:01:10 PM PDT by OKSooner ("Get a brain, morans!!")
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To: ColdOne

IMO, way past time for him to resign!


6 posted on 10/07/2011 2:01:23 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: ColdOne

Mr. Holder: why then are you not demanding the heads of those who “walked” arms contrary to US law and to the grave suffering of our southern neighbors?


7 posted on 10/07/2011 2:01:38 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: ColdOne
Hitler was routinely righteously indignant when he was accused of wanting war, right up to the invasion of Poland. Eric Holder is his soul-mate.
8 posted on 10/07/2011 2:01:55 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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Holder Challenges 'Fast and Furious' Allegations in Scathing Letter

Let me guess.. "Racists!"

9 posted on 10/07/2011 2:02:29 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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"...interests that I hope we all share..."

He wants us to share his interest in him hanging around to advance his hate-America-first agenda. That's not surprising, but it ain't gonna happen.

10 posted on 10/07/2011 2:02:32 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: ColdOne

Looks like we’ve finally got his attention.


11 posted on 10/07/2011 2:04:38 PM PDT by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: ColdOne

Tell it to Bubba.


13 posted on 10/07/2011 2:04:48 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: ColdOne

Holder needs to resign. NOW!


14 posted on 10/07/2011 2:05:33 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If you always tell the truth, you won't have to remember what you said.)
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To: ColdOne

Yeah, that’s the ticket.


16 posted on 10/07/2011 2:06:17 PM PDT by reagandemocrat (Obama bitterly clings to his Gunwalker cover-up)
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To: ColdOne
  • ACORN traffics in underage foreign prostitutes and 0bama cuts out $7 billion dollars of Stimulus cash for ACORN.

  • ATF traffics in full-auto weapons to Mexican drug cartels and 0bama's AG doesn't know a thing.

  • The CIA traffics in shoulder-fired rockets and other high-powered weapons to a Mexican drug cartel and the SecState knows nothing.

  • The DOJ is cutting deals with Mexican drug cartels.

We've got a narco/arms/human slave trafficking Mob Boss in the WH.


17 posted on 10/07/2011 2:06:54 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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Prediction: Obama pardons Holder in last minute pardon bonanza in 2012.


18 posted on 10/07/2011 2:07:14 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (The unemployment problem only can be solved when Obama is unemployed.)
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To: ColdOne

He’s “ridin’ dir-taaayyyyy”


19 posted on 10/07/2011 2:07:19 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Living well is no longer the best revenge. Revenge is now the best revenge.)
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As Congressman Issa stated, “You’re entitled to your own opinion, but you’re not entitled to your own facts.”


20 posted on 10/07/2011 2:07:34 PM PDT by CholeraJoe (Prepare for Armageddon! Buy brass and lead!)
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It would be more appropriate if Holder was sending his letters from a prison cell and collaborating with his bunkie Zero.


21 posted on 10/07/2011 2:07:56 PM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: ColdOne

The Honorable Darrell E. Issa
Chairman
Committee on Oversight
and Government Reform
U.S. House of Representatives
Washington, DC 205 15
The Honorable Patrick J. Leahy
Chairman
Committee on the Judiciary
United States Senate
Washington, DC 205 10
The Honorable Lamar S. Smith
Chairman
Committee on the Judiciary
U.S. House of Representatives
Washington, DC 205 15
The Attorney General
Washington, D.C.
October 7,20 1 1
The Honorable Elijah Cummings
Ranking Minority Member
Committee on Oversight
and Government Reform
U.S. House of Representatives
Washington, DC 20515
The Honorable Charles E. Grassley
Ranking Minority Member
Committee on the Judiciary
United States Senate
Washington, DC 205 10
The Honorable John Conyers, Jr.
Ranking Minority Member
Committee on the Judiciary
U.S. House of Representatives
Washington, DC 205 15
Dear Messrs. Chairmen and Senator Grassley, Congressman Conyers, and
Congressman Cummings:

I have watched for some months now as the facts surrounding Operation Fast and Furious have
been developed on the public record. I have not spoken at length on this subject out of deference to the
review being conducted, at my request, by our Department’s Inspector General. However, in the past few
days, the public discourse concerning these issues has become so base and so harmful to interests that I
hope we all share that I must now address these issues notwithstanding the Inspector General’s ongoing
review.

For example, I simply cannot sit idly by as a Majority Member of the House Committee on
Oversight and Government Reform suggests, as happened this week, that law enforcement and
government employees who devote their lives to protecting our citizens be considered “accessories to
murder.” Such irresponsible and inflammatory rhetoric must be repudiated in the strongest possible
terms. Those who serve in the ranks of law enforcement are our Nation’s heroes and deserve our Nation’s
thanks, not the disrespect that is being heaped on them by those who seek political advantage. I trust you
feel similarly and I call on you to denounce these statements.
I also want to be very clear that protecting American citizens from the devastating effects of gun
violence is among the most important responsibilities of the Department of Justice. Likewise, ensuring
that weapons sold here do not flow south to Mexico is of paramount importance. We are committed to
disrupting and dismantling the organizations that traffic weapons across our borders and I am proud to

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stand with our brave law enforcement officers who fight every day to protect our citizens and those of
Mexico from the effects of gun violence and illegal gun trafficking.

A. Fast and Furious was a Flawed Response to a Serious Problem on the Southwest
Border

According to ATF, it took into evidence nationwide approximately 35,000 firearms in FY 201 1.
In FY 2010, the number was approximately 37,500. During that same period, ATF reports that it took
into evidence nationwide over 5 million rounds of ammunition. Still, the Southwest Border remains the
front line in the battle against illegal gun trafficking. ATF and our prosecutors struggle mightily to make
cases against gun smugglers and do outstanding work on a daily basis in an effort to stop the flow of guns
across our borders.

Notwithstanding the seriousness of the problem faced on the Southwest Border, there is no doubt
that Operation Fast and Furious was fundamentally flawed. Regrettably, its effects will be felt for years
to come as weapons that should have been interdicted but were not continue to show up at crime scenes in
this country and in Mexico. This is both tragic and completely unacceptable. I want to be very clear that
we must aim to disrupt and dismantle the dangerous cartels that operate south of our border. That said, in
our pursuit of that goal we must take all steps possible to prevent guns from crossing our border and the
desire to bring cartel leaders to justice does not and cannot justify losing track of dangerous weapons.
For that very reason, in 201 1, after the controversy about this matter arose, I took decisive action
to ensure that such operations are never again undertaken. First, I referred the matter to the Department’s
Inspector General for review so the facts underlying it could come out. Second, I instructed the Deputy
Attorney General to reiterate to our prosecutors and law enforcement components that Department policy
prohibits the design or conduct of undercover operations which include the uncontrolled crossing of guns
across the border. In addition, new leadership is now in place both at ATF and in the United States
Attorney’s Office in Arizona. It has become clear that the flawed tactics employed in Fast and Furious
were not limited to that operation and were actually employed in an investigation conducted during the
prior Administration. Regardless, those tactics should never again be adopted in any investigation.

B. No Knowled~eo f Fast and Furious’ Misguided Tactics
Much has been made in the past few days about my congressional testimony earlier this year
regarding Fast and Furious. My testimony was truthful and accurate and I have been consistent on this
point throughout. I have no recollection of knowing about Fast and Furious or of hearing its name prior
to the public controversy about it. Prior to early 201 1, I certainly never knew about the tactics employed
in the operation and it is my understanding that the former United States Attorney for the District of
Arizona and the former Acting Director and Deputy Director of ATF have told Congress that they,
themselves, were unaware of the tactics employed. I understand that they have also told Congress that
they never briefed me or other Department leadership on the misguided tactics that were used in Fast and
Furious. Of course, that is not surprising for, as Chairman Issa made clear in an interview on CNN just
this week, even the former Acting Director of ATF “has said he didn’t know about” the tactics being used
in the field by his agency.

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In the past few days, some have pointed to documents that we provided to Congress as evidence
that I was familiar with Fast and Furious earlier than I have testified. That simply is not the case and
those suggestions mischaracterize the process by which I receive information concerning the activities of
the Department’s many components. On a weekly basis, my office typically receives over a hundred
pages of so-called “weekly reports” that, while addressed to me, actually are provided to and reviewed by
members of my staff and the staff of the Office of the Deputy Attorney General. The weekly reports
contain short summaries of matters that the agencies deem of interest that week. Sometimes, the
summaries are simply a sentence-long and other times they consist of a paragraph. In some cases, the
summaries are of policy-related issues or upcoming events. In other cases, the summaries are brief, highlevel
reviews of pending matters or investigations. It is important to look at the documents supposedly at
issue here and, for that reason, I have attached them to this letter and am making them public in the form
they previously were provided by us to Congress. Please note that none of these summaries say anything
about the unacceptable tactics employed by ATF.

Attorneys in my office and in the Office of the Deputy Attorney General review these weekly
reports and bring to my attention only those matters deemed to require my consideration or action; given
the volume of material to which I must devote my attention, 1 do not and cannot read them cover-tocover.
Here, no issues concerning Fast and Furious were brought to my attention because the information
presented in the reports did not suggest a problem. Rather, the entries suggest active law enforcement
action being taken to combat a firearms-trafficking organization that was moving weapons to Mexico.
For example, the ATF weekly report for July 19-23,20 10 briefly described the seizure in Phoenix of 73
firearms and 250 AK-47 drum magazines from a local business as part of Operation Fast and Furious,
again with no mention of any unacceptable tactics.

If a component of the Department has concerns about a particular matter, there are established
avenues for raising them with my office or that of the Deputy Attorney General and a weekly report is not
one of them. As Attorney General, I am not and cannot be familiar with the operational details of any
particular investigation being conducted in an ATF field office unless those details are brought to my
attention. That did not happen with Fast and Furious until the public controversy arose in 201 1.
Senator Grassley has suggested that I was aware of Operation Fast and Furious from letters he
provided to me on or about January 3 1,201 1 that were addressed to the former Acting Director of ATF.
However, those letters referred only to an ATF umbrella initiative on the Southwest Border that started
under the prior Administration — Project Gunrunner — and not to Operation Fast and Furious.
To be sure, during 2010 I knew generally that ATF was conducting gun trafficking operations
along the Southwest Border and elsewhere in the country since that is a core part of its mission given the
large number of firearms flowing to Mexico each year from the United States. I also was aware of the
existence of Project Gunrunner. More specifically, however, I now understand some senior officials
within the Department were aware at the time that there was an operation called Fast and Furious
although they were not advised of the unacceptable operational tactics being used in it. For example, I
understand that we have provided to Congress materials from a March 2010 monthly meeting between the
then-Acting Deputy Attorney General and senior ATF officials that included discussion of Fast and

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Furious. That meeting, of course, occurred shortly before Chairman Issa received his own briefing
regarding Fast and Furious from some of the same ATF officials. I am aware that Chairman Issa has said
that he was not briefed on the unacceptable details of Fast and Furious. Like Chairman Issa, the then-
Acting Deputy Attorney General was not told of the unacceptable tactics employed in the operation in his
regular monthly meetings with ATF to discuss its activities throughout the United States and abroad.

C. Congress Has Failed to Consider Whether Additional Tools Are Needed to Stem the
Flow of Guns into Mexico

ATF witnesses testified before the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform that
the agency’s ability to stem the flow of guns from the United States into Mexico is severely impaired by a
lack of effective law enforcement tools. For example, a number of witnesses indicated that current
penalties for illegal straw purchases are inadequate to deter such activity or to induce cooperation with
law enforcement authorities after a violation is detected. Likewise, the lack of reporting requirements for
multiple long gun purchases in a short period of time hindered law enforcement efforts to combat gun
trafficking. Yet, the House of Representatives has voted to block a rule that requires such reporting on
the Southwest Border.

As I have said, the fact that even a single gun was not interdicted in this operation and found its
way to Mexico is unacceptable. Equally unacceptable, however, is the fact that too many in Congress are
opposed to any discussion of fixing loopholes in our laws that facilitate the staggering flow of guns each
year across our border to the south. I cannot help but note that at the same time that some members of
Congress understandably criticize the Fast and Furious operation, they vehemently refuse to consider
whether ATF has the resources and legal tools it needs to do its job — tools that would be entirely
consistent with the constitutional rights of law-abiding citizens.

A telling moment in this regard came during one of the Fast and Furious hearings held by the
House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform when Representative Maloney sought to
question an ATF witness about potential reforms to our laws that would help stem the flow of illegal
weapons. Representative Maloney was cut-off in mid-sentence by Chairman Issa, who then “cautioned”
the witness that it would not be “valid testimony” to respond to such questions because the Committee
was not interested in “proposed legislation and the like[.]” While failing to interdict weapons is an
unacceptable tactic to stop the flow of illegal weapons, it seems clear that some in Congress are more
interested in using this regrettable incident to score political points than in addressing the underlying
problem. Even in the face of an unprecedented flow of guns across the border, too many in Congress still
oppose every effort to reform our gun laws in ways that would make the United States and our Mexican
neighbors safer.

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Until we move beyond the current political climate — where real solutions take a back seat to both
political posturing and making headlines on cable news programs, and is deemed more important than
actually solving our country’s difficult challenges — nothing is going to change. I hope we can engage in
a more responsible dialogue on this subject in the future. There is much we all need to do together to stop
gun violence on both sides of the border and make our Nation safer.

Sincerely,
\
Eric H. Holder, Jr.
Enclosures


23 posted on 10/07/2011 2:08:41 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: ColdOne

Obviously a stupid move. Never refute something that can’t be refuted with more lies — ON PAPER! Holder should be toast. Lets make sure his feet are held to the fire on this one.


24 posted on 10/07/2011 2:10:04 PM PDT by kevinm13 (Tim Geithner is a tax cheat. Manmade "Global Warming" is a HOAX!)
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To: ColdOne
One word for you Holder: Leavenworth.

I can dream, can't I?

5.56mm

30 posted on 10/07/2011 2:14:40 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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