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Cain Proposes Electrified Border Fence
Pravda- NY Times Division ^ | 10/15/11 | Wyatt

Posted on 10/15/2011 4:18:53 PM PDT by VinL

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To: circlecity

It was invented by a Dr. Alan Parsons which is why I am calling it “The Alan Parsons project.”


781 posted on 10/16/2011 1:26:00 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Mark Halperin - Learned the hard way what happens when you speak the truth on PMSNBC.)
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To: VinL

too bad that they won’t give americans guns like they do terrorists.

regardless, all anyone has to do is stop paying for medical, education, food and housing for illegals. They will scamper back to mexico faster than they came ere to begin with.


782 posted on 10/16/2011 1:43:40 AM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: mylife
Why worry about facts? Let’s just beat up Rick Perry unfairly for illegal immigration. That is the flavor du jour, is it not?

No need to beat up Rick Perry, you're absolutely right. He's doing a fine job of shooting himself in the foot, all on his own.

I only mention MR Reagan to bring light to this rabid Perry bashing on immigration. I never meant in any way to malign Mr Reagan.

Of course you didn't. And naturally, the dearly departed RudyBots never meant to malign Ronald Reagan when they made their 'mentions' of him while defending their guy (that Rick endorsed as we all remember).

Oh, and your link does not work.

You never heard of copy and paste? Jeez, want me to print off the article and snail mail it to you?
783 posted on 10/16/2011 1:48:13 AM PDT by mkjessup (Herman Cain is a God fearin', Jesus-lovin', Constitution-revering PATRIOT. What's not to like?)
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To: VinL
I can't believe there are actual idiots on here who think this will hurt Cain when this is what the majority of Americans have wanted from a politician for a long time. Polls have shown that most politicians are completely out of touch with the American people on illegal immigration. They agree with Herman Cain on this. This will help him because it's the correct, and popular, opinion of most American citizens who don't see a need to pander to criminal illegals or their weak, corrupt, and anti-American government unlike most of our previous Presidents and current candidates.
Cain is talking like us real Conservatives have been talking for years now, and aren't afraid to say it unlike the spineless who care only about winning regardless of anything else. Those of you who believe something like this will hurt a Conservative Republican candidate are as ignorant as John McCain and his staff. A candidate saying something the large majority of American citizens want to hear on an issue that's been ignored for years despite the outrage of the people, and the fact that everyone knows it is out of control and destroying our nation, will not hurt their campaign unless they are running for office in Mexico. It's completely illogical to see it any other way than it is.

Herman Cain's opinion is supported by far more AMERICAN CITIZENS than those who oppose it. Too many so-called Conservatives lack principle just like the career politicians they prefer over anything new, because they are scared of something new even if it could be what we need to save the nation just because they fear it will end in defeat, and they will take a liberal RINO who actually has less of a chance to win before they will get behind an intelligent man who speaks like real Americans because he knows what we want, and what the country needs to survive.

But how dare Cain say what most Americans agree with instead of pandering to the criminal element destroying our society, and the weak Mexican government that has their loyalty and our country to trash and steal from. Herman Cain will not embarrass our nation by allowing the government of Mexico to insult him, the U.S., or it's citizens like others before him have. He's not afraid to enforce our laws just because he will be called a racist by a small minority of people who have nothing more than that because of how obvious it is they support something illegal, unpopular, and destructive to the United States. Illegal immigrants and the Mexican government do not control us, and the minority of American citizens who side with them don't even come close in numbers, or influence, to those of us who side with Herman Cain on this issue.

We aren't the Republicans who want victory for the party no matter how liberal they are on such important issues as this. We are actually fed up with all the pandering Republican liberals who have fooled themselves into believing they are Conservative, but don't have the balls to stray from the status quo when it comes down to it. If you are the ones who think Cain coming out strong on the right side of this issue is going to hurt him you're the ones who are completely brainwashed, and are either on the wrong side of the issue yourself, or just don't have any backbone, principle, or intelligence like the identical RINO’s you've supported your entire lives. They are just a bunch of empty suits who usually don't even know how to run campaigns because they are so out of touch with voters, and now we have people who have come to believe these losers.

This has solidified my Support for Herman Cain. I will be donating even more to his campaign based on this. I will do everything I can to get this man the Republican nomination, and then into the Presidency. I will not vote for the same type of do nothing career politician that we have never gotten anything substantial and positive from. I'm just saddened and perplexed by those of you who believe saying something about illegal immigration, an issue that has frustrated so many Americans because no matter what we do the career politicians have completely abandoned us on this issue in support of the illegals who are breaking our laws and ruining our nation, will hurt him instead of giving those who have given up out of obvious reluctance by our leaders to represent us on this someone to finally get behind; someone who will simply enforce our laws.

There has been almost no one who has given us any hope whatsoever when it comes to solving this problem, even though it's been shown that Cain's type of talk on the issue is what the majority of Americans want. This is going to help Cain gain support and money as it should. I already know people who have started supporting Cain for this type of talk. People are impressed he is talking like the majority, and not like the career politicians with no substance or Conservative principle because they fear a small minority made up largely of people who aren't even American citizens.

The Hispanic majority here legally will support Democrats in the near future, and pandering to illegals will not change that. If that is the strategy of Republicans it's one of the stupidest I have ever heard of. It's wrong to believe that all Hispanics support illegal immigration as many seem to believe is the case. My best friend is Hispanic and he's against illegal immigration just as much as the rest of us. He's American and has more in common with Americans than illegal immigrants from the nation his ancestors left because he was raised in America, and has no more in common with illegal Mexican immigrants than I do. Those legal Hispanics who do support illegal immigration will never support Republicans over Democrats no matter how much pandering Republicans do. Democrats will always pander to lawbreaking illegals over legal citizens even more so.

Republicans better know that they will lose more far more votes by insulting those like me who will not except being ignored, or opposed, on this issue any longer. I will not vote for someone who talk tough on illegal immigration. I will not vote for someone just because they think those of us being ignored will vote for them just to vote against Obama or some other liberal, but I already did that with Bush and McCain, and will never do it again. I will not choose the candidate who will destroy the nation a little slower over the guy who will destroy it faster. If Obama wins reelection it's because we didn't nominate a good Conservative who can be supported by people like me who are fed up with voting for the least worst candidate, and refuse to do it no matter what. If Obama wins it's what we deserve for not nominating a new kind of candidate like we talked about at TEA party rallies. Candidates that sounded just like Herman Cain.

And Legal Hispanic Americans are just like every other American and most are against illegal immigration. Many have no more in common with those in Mexico than most whites have with the European nations our ancestors were smart enough to leave. Stop the pandering to illegals strategy thinking it will help you when it will destroy you obviously destroy you.

Herman Cain is what we need, and he's the kind of person the TEA party supporters I stood with were asking for in a candidate. A guy who's not a career politician, but an intelligent, successful, and educated man who speaks like a true American on the most important issues of our time. He's on the right side of this issue. The side of the majority of Americans, and one of our most important and just laws. An issue ignored for way too long, but finally spoken about with the emotion and straightforwardness we have sought. Don't attack a man like Cain for taking the right stance on an issue as important as this then pretend you care about the nation or want anything but a vague talking politician too afraid of certain issues.

http://www.hermancain.com/

784 posted on 10/16/2011 2:54:16 AM PDT by ThermoNuclearWarrior ( Herman Cain 2012 !!! - www.HermanCain.com)
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To: hocndoc
I really do not wish to be pinged by some clown with his head up rick perry's derriere.
785 posted on 10/16/2011 4:00:57 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrat)
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To: PapaBear3625

There is a way to keep people from crossing. It is sure to work
The fence and landmines. Unless they have EOD and mine detectors there isnt much they could do.
Bouncing Betty or those little wooden mines.
The Fence should be ten feet into the ground as well....


786 posted on 10/16/2011 4:42:28 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: All
Folks, he was asked about this back in August during a debate. Mr. Cain's response, "America has got to learn to take a joke."

Debate clip

787 posted on 10/16/2011 4:43:20 AM PDT by Ophiucus
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To: VinL
Mr. Cain added that he also would consider using military troops “with real guns and real bullets” on the border to stop illegal immigration.

This is a bad idea...somebody might get hurt.

Could you just imagine the the health issues inflicted on the likes of Pelosi after hearing that thousands of paid for guaranteed votes just got mowed down while illegally crossing the border?

788 posted on 10/16/2011 5:02:11 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: cripplecreek

This thread sure brought out the open borders advocates here on FR.


789 posted on 10/16/2011 5:03:24 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: SouthTexas

The wind rarely stops down there. As far as when they are broken down....put some of those “99%” to work to get them running again.


790 posted on 10/16/2011 5:05:03 AM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November (2012) from my house.)
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To: raybbr

You mean people who are more concerned with getting their way than saving America. Little better than the wall street protesters in my opinion.


791 posted on 10/16/2011 5:07:07 AM PDT by cripplecreek (ALCS/NLCS playoff thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2789907/posts)
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To: BobL

Snipers won’t be allowed to shoot innocent children down, and actually it’s pretty easily to sneak a balloon at night. Other than eclipsing a few stars, it’s pretty inconspicuous. It will be lucrative and provide jobs for air ferrymen and the ground support who booby trap the surrounding roads near landing sites. I just need to decide whether to call it the Tortilla Flotilla or Eclipso Cruz Lines.


792 posted on 10/16/2011 5:15:38 AM PDT by Lady Lucky
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To: jonrick46
If you go from protecting empty space to protecting a fence with "boots on the ground" what did you imagine was a good way to deal with fence busters?

Are your border patrol guys supposed to write them a ticket on the spot with instructions to show up in court, or maybe they are going to shoot them.

Once you get past the ticket part, how you shoot them might be meaningful ~ Hellfire missiles work much better than bullets!

It's like the questions you face when selecting a guard dog for your family home. Do you think a little Bijon Fries will do the job (they don't even bark loud but they will jump up on your bed and lick your face until you wake up), or do you prefer a pit bull that can grab and hold a burglar and hold him on the ground ~ by the throat?

Think of what the burglar will make of your decision!

Think of what the dog will think of it.

Think of your family.

793 posted on 10/16/2011 5:21:33 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: hocndoc; Reagan Boy; Cincinatus' Wife

At one time I could of managed to hold my nose and possibly vote for Perry after he called me heartless. But after numerous insipid arguments from Perrywinkles on FR I could never vote for that fraud now. You guys really blew it for Perry. In your mindless defense of the indefensible, you managed to take one issue and completely turn off all real conservatives by insulting our intelligence. God job. Perry will not ever be President I will now work against him. I was neutral but now I am anti-Perry. So KMA.


794 posted on 10/16/2011 5:25:44 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: TexMom7

GIve back the interstate highway system. Go back to your dirt roads. I am now ant-Perry because as clowns like you on FR.


795 posted on 10/16/2011 5:27:26 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Revel
Guy took a plane into the Rose Garden several years back. Nobody shot him.

Now they have anti-aircraft batteries protecting the White House. Onliest thing you can do with those things is, of course, to shoot the plane on its way to the White House.

Guess nobody wanted to take the chance that the next plane will miss!

796 posted on 10/16/2011 5:28:21 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Porterville

How dare you talk common sense to the Cainiacs. Don’t forget- NO NEW TAXES (well except for Cain’s 9% sales tax- that’s not really a tax, because businesses will be paying less)


797 posted on 10/16/2011 5:30:52 AM PDT by conservaterian (Sarah/DeMint '12-XXX= Now what? Cain?)
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To: Just mythoughts

The US Supreme Court has already ruled on the constitutionality of Voter ID ~ see: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/29/washington/28cnd-scotus.html


798 posted on 10/16/2011 5:30:52 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: VinL; waterhill; ixtl
I like it and I think most of America does too. Sure there are some logistical considerations, but it would not be impossible.

Put it on the Mexican side of the Rio Grande. Mexico does not like it, I don't care. They should not have been encouraging illegal immigration in the first place.

Good for you Mr. Cain for having the guts to make this an issue no other politician will touch, but now they will have to.....

Border fence (((ping))).....

799 posted on 10/16/2011 5:35:31 AM PDT by Envisioning ( Call me a racist................, one more time......................)
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To: alicewonders

Presidential candidates that call their base heartless and have his butt boys shove it down our throats on Free Republic will do that. I’m just sayin’.


800 posted on 10/16/2011 5:38:27 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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