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To: cripplecreek
You mean people who are more concerned with getting their way than saving America. Little better than the wall street protesters in my opinion.

Yep. People on FR who call themselves Americans and conservatives but in reality put their own self interests above the nation on a regular basis.

813 posted on 10/16/2011 6:29:19 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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Having read through the posts since last night I am just floored. There are people here arguing that it is somehow wrong to kill invaders in defense of our border.

What in the Nine Hells are people doing on a conservative website using LIBERAL QUOTES like “Seeking a batter Economic Future”??

And the Arizona chick is a prime example of Jimmy Carter malaise with her “It’s too hard...the terrain is rough” mentality. Dear God please give me my Free Republic website back because I am unsure as to where I am.

Again people. We currently live in orbit. We build thousand foot skyscrapers and live in them by the thousands. We drill for oil in 13000 feet of water. We strung fiber-optic cable across the oceans... Don’t try to tell me we cannot build a freaking fence and that animals can’t get water. I cannot fathom the sheer stupidity that allows someone to throw their integrety out the door in PUBLIC just to fall on their candidate;s sword. Nor can I grasp how self deluding and disingenuous people here are willing to be over what it takes to seal and protect a border.

Full fence
BP/Military/whatever patrols
Ground penetrating sonar
Dogs
Cameras
Airborne Drones/surveillance

It has been done for THOUSANDS of years from China to Russia to Europe with a fraction of the tech and knowledge we possess today. Now back to the killing thing...

An enemy is an enemy. Someone attempting to violate our border is a criminal at minimum and an enemy at the other end. Neither of these things is acceptable to allow free access to our soil. Any woman stupid enough to fry her child on an electric fence is one we want here. This is no different than Palestinians strapping bombs to their kids. WE, nor ISRAEL is the bad guy when we take measures to stop them from breaching our borders.

Any Illegal stupid enough to challenge our border by any means is opening THEMSELVES to deadly force. WE are not going into Mexico and forcing them to come here. They do it of their own free will and the reason MATTERS NOT AT ALL WHY.

The pussification of America is at such a level that we are on the most conservative site on the web today arguing about it being somehow “wrong” “Stupid” “Ignorant” “UnAmerican” and a dozen other descriptors for why using deadly force to protect America and her citizens is “incorrect.”

Because that’s the bottom line. You are either wanting our country and citizens safe and sovereign, or you do not. Period. You are willing to take a life when that safety and sovereignty is threatened or you are not. You believe in the concept of a border or you do not. While you have your little moment of intellectual masturbation, more and more illegals violate our border and with each new illegal, the power of the Left/Democrats grows.

This incrementalism ultimately results in one thing. The end of America at the hands of people too meek to stand up for it. And some of you want to just keep putting off the hard choices because the language ‘offends you’. You can sugar coat it, you can make all the excuses in the world. But you cannot find a single flaw in my logic here.

Now I invite you anti-fencers and pro-Perry apologists to address the issues I have presented here and prove them wrong. Don’t call me names, don’t use flippant one-liners. ADDRESS THESE ISSUES if you have any courage of your convictions. Stop making the same rehashed excuses that LIBERALS have made for decades as to why we “Can’t” do it and factually disprove all the reasons we “CAN” without all the emotional bull$h!t. Or admit that you hold Liberal and anti-American values. There is no grey area for you to hide in.


827 posted on 10/16/2011 7:52:53 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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