Cain leads South Carolina Republican primary race

The Augusta Chronicle ^ | 10/17/11 | Walter C. Jones

[casinva]

I’m here to tell you to rise against the federal enterprise and empowerment zones Cain is now inserting into his 999 program. That doesn’t mean you can’t support him as a nominee, but fiscal conservatives need to hold his behind to the fire and not let him add those expanded federal welfare programs that are nothing more than social engineered federal entitlements.

Do NOT let Cain add those to his 999 plan.

Tell him NO!

[Clairity]

Cain is not going to get the nomination.

I guess we’ll have to have another thread: “Clairity was right” — when Cain drops out and endorses Romney.

[BagCamAddict]

Yes, Perry may prevent Cain from getting the nomination, ensuring that Romney does. Great job!

[Fred]

If you are referring to those that are retired and on SS, they will pay no tax on dividends or cap gains and no tax on SS. Cain said this on MSNBC Sunday.

for more on the 9-9-9 plan

goto

http://www.nerds4cain.com/forums/discussion/106/does-everyone-understand-the-difference-between-a-vat-and-a-retail-sales-taxs

[AmericanInTokyo]

Ground game (foot soldiers/precinct worker bees) and cash (for TV, mailers, travel, top notch events), that will the big thing, but he has momentum so he can slingshot it to his advantage. This man has run businesses, and I can tell you, the parallels to a political campaign are many, so he knows what he is doing, and he has some very good people around him right now. Underestimate at ones own peril.

[Watchdog85]

Social Security income will not be taxed, along with many other savings plans including 401k

http://www.mofopolitics.com/2011/10/15/mike-huckabee-interviews-herman-cain-101511/

[TexasFreeper2009]

I would like to see Romney somehow pull of the win after Cain sweeps Iowa, South Carolina, and Florida.

Plus I saw an interview with Cain earlier tonight... and they were asking him why the heck was he in Tenn. and other unusual states instead of eating corn dogs in Iowa like the others... and Cain said.. well.. the rules are different this time around, the early states like New Hampshire, have to award their delegates proportionally while the states that have latter primaries like Tenn. will be winner take all....

BINGO!

Cains got a plan to sweep the winner take all states and take this puppy. Romney will waste all his time in money to win New Hampshire but he will only get a few more delegates than Cain even if Cain comes in 10 points behind him there, because of the new rules, while Cain will get ALL the delegates in the Southern states with later primaries.

lol

Cain is a genius.

[TheConservator]

There is NO WAY Perry is winning the nomination. He has shot himself in the foot one too many times.

Sorry, but that’s reality.

This has boiled down to a Romney Cain race. The faster the other conservative candidates realize this and gang up behind Cain, the better the chance it won’t be Romney.

[BobP]

Let's try limited government.

Obama is TOAST! The only question remains - regular or extra-crispy?

Herman Cain would sweep Obama in the debates. The narcissist Obama would be exposed as the unfeeling, teleprompter reader that he is.

Cain, by contrast actually loves America. He connects with real people because he is real. With them standing side by side in a debate the contrasts would be obvious to everyone who is not a Kool-aide drinker.

But sweep or not, I doubt he'll win over many liberal/socialists.

I liked it when Cain said that Obama couldn't run one of his pizza parlors.

''The president has demonstrated that he lacks leadership in a whole lot of ways [and] could not run a company,'' Cain told Newsmax on June 2, 2011. ''And I don't mean to be disrespectful: He could not run one Godfather's pizza restaurant.''

Go Herman! Keep speaking the truth!

Countdown until Zer0 leaves Office: 460 days as of October 17, 2011.

[casinva]

I thought that was what Cain said about social security recipients on Huckabee. Perhaps I didn’t understand what Cain said.

However....

The information I provided about exemptions for families in low income minority neighborhoods comes from other sources, and I’m confident I have that correct.

Sorry if my post above was confusing on that.

Guess we need to check Huckabee for the senior info, but I’ve got this for the low income minority residents.

Here are the sources for Cain eliminating or reducing the tax burden for families in low income minority neighborhoods and his inclusion of enterprise and empowerment zones.

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Cain to reduce or eliminate the 9% national sales tax burden for low income families.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/post/path-to-the-nomination-when-does-cain-face-the-heat/2011/03/29/gIQA2uvQbL_blog.html

(Excerpt)
Lowrie says it’s just “Washington thinking” to look at whether modest-income Americans will wind up shouldering much more of the tax burden. He repeatedly refused to say how much more of the tax burden would be borne by the poor and middle class than under the current system. But he implicitly acknowledged the problem by saying that the campaign would “fix this” with a new empowerment-zone plan that would be laid on top of the 9-9-9 plan and would presumably lower taxes in inner cities. But how fair is that to people living elsewhere? And aren’t we back to more complexity?
(End of excerpt)

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Cain’s 999 plan to give tax credit to low income families to offset any national sales tax they may have to pay.

http://www.newsy.com/videos/analysis-will-cain-s-9-9-9-plan-work-is-it-fair/";>http://www.newsy.com/videos/analysis-will-cain-s-9-9-9-plan-work-is-it-fair/”>http://www.newsy.com/videos/analysis-will-cain-s-9-9-9-plan-work-is-it-fair/

Analysis: Will Cain’s 9-9-9 plan work? Is it fair?
October 13, 2011
Excerpt:
But a Wall Street Journal reporter rather bullish on the plan says that’s not the whole story — that Cain’s plan would take steps to avoid putting too much burden on the lower income.

“Herman’s plan has a hold harmless provision for low-income people. It’s kind of a tax credit to keep people below the poverty line from really being hit by these taxes. And yet, Herman himself is not talking about this at all. It may just not be a popular product for primary voters.”

In fact, Cain’s campaign website cryptically addresses this issue — without much detail. But he clarified a bit in the Wall Street Journal.

“My plan promotes enterprise zones, also known as ‘empowerment zones.’ Coupled with tax reform and monetary stabilization, empowerment zones would revitalize inner cities by providing tax credits to businesses that hire workers living and working in underprivileged areas.”

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The 999 plan to promote expanded federal empowerment zones (aka enterprise zones) to provide federally-chosen and federally-run services and entitlements to families living in low income minority neighborhoods”.

http://detnews.com/article/20110930/MIVIEW/109300301/Call-999-CAIN-to-rescue-Detroit

Call 999-CAIN to rescue Detroit
September 30, 2011
(Excerpt)
Cain also believes the 9-9-9 plan can be used as the basis for an idea he hopes will spur urban renewal. (Seriously . . . a Republican talking about urban issues. Take a second to wait for the room to stop spinning.) In a few weeks, Cain plans to unveil a concept for urban empowerment zones in which the 9s would be replaced by lower numbers. He is not ready to commit to 8-8-8, 7-7-7 or anything else specific because he’s still got his tax policy advisors running the numbers to see what would work. But he is convinced the idea can help bring about economic revival in the areas that most desperately need it.
(End of excerpt)

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Meet Herman Cain’s “Enterprise and Empowerment Zones” - Your new 9% national sales tax at work

http://www.mitchellmoss.com/articles/power.html

(Excerpt)
During the 1980s, liberals latched onto the enterprise zone concept. They discovered that it offered a way to channel money into impoverished urban communities, subverting the rationale for the enterprise zone by expanding, rather than reducing, government involvement.

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Congressman Charles Rangel of Harlem, then the third-ranking Democrat on the House Ways and Means Committee, was largely responsible for inserting the empowerment zone proposal into the 1993 act, which combined tax hikes for the rich with tax credits for the working poor. Before that. President Clinton had given up on any large-scale public investment program, after failing to pass an economic stimulus package that would have channeled federal money into communities acre’s the country

snip

The Harlem portion of the plan (empowerment zones) is a remarkable mix of programs to serve local needs for day care, education, social services, and health care, combined with a few large-scale physical development projects, like a new CUNY community college at the Washburn Wire Factory, that will not create private-sector jobs or attract private investment. For example, the proposal envisions a computerized drug referral system, security improvements in public housing, child-care program upgrades, “family preservation, development, and intergenerational programs,” a community health center, and a cadre of community empowerment zone organizers to assist residents in gaining access to empowerment zone - and other government - programs. The proposal also envisions a “Medicaid Entitlement Zone” that seeks to make every resident of the zone eligible for Medicaid. The proposal earmarks 23 percent of the federal empowerment zone funds for children and youth programs, 12 percent for health and substance-abuse programs, 6 percent for other social services, and 17 percent for local administration of the program - 58 percent of the total.
(End of excerpt)

[Arizona Carolyn]

But they will pay 9% for food, 9% on their drugs..9% on their fuel, energy usage, etc.... did you know some of their drugs run over $1000 out of pocket each month?

[BenKenobi]

Makes sense to me.

He owns the eastern seaboard from VA to FL.

Time to head out to TN, LA, MS, and AL and sweep the South!

[Fred]

The poll you use is at least 6 days old. The poll from the article is dated 101611. The most current poll is based on registered Repubs that are most likely to vote.

[RC one]

was he referring to their social security tax, the national sales tax or both? 999 is a tax on consumption. A tax on consumption has never created employment or prosperity, it creates deflation and this is one of the biggest flaws in his plan. The 999 plan encourages saving; true, but just look at Japan to see how well saving money helps an economy to grow. The Japanese are known as savers and they are also known as having been mired in a deflationary spiral for the past 20 years BECAUSE OF IT. What is even worse is that our central banker friends will exacerbate the deflationary spiral by creating more money which will obviously result in a continuation of the Obama stagflation. 999 is dangerous. that it comes from the mind of a central banker makes it more so. Ultimately, a national sales tax should be resisted every bit as forcefully as the federal income tax was when it was forced upon us... by central bankers.

[napscoordinator]

Cain is kicking butt. Thank God he is getting rid of those RINOs Romney and Perry......Thank you Herman!!!!!!!

[BagCamAddict]

Furthermore, you’re quoting from a poll that was taken from Oct. 5 - Oct. 10. And your guy had only 15% of the vote in that one.

The poll in this article was taken Sunday, October 16.

I really do appreciate that you like your candidate, but it would be helpful to all Conservatives, all Republicans, all Independents, and even some Democrats, if you could offer some comparisons between your candidate and the others, instead of constantly attacking (with little or no substance behind your attacks) all the other candidates.

For example, perhaps you could tell everyone your candidate’s economic strategy? Or his foreign policy? Or his jobs growth plan?

[Fred]

And they no longer pay any taxes on their dividends or cap gains which would offset these other taxes.

[napscoordinator]

La Raza Rick Perry is at an embarrassing single digit of 5%.

Best news I have heard all day. Thank you for letting us know the fraud will not be President. Maybe he should SERIOUSLY run for President of Mexico. I bet he could even campaign in Spanish.

[outhousepatrol]

Cain is first in most polls.. Perry. meanwhile, is stuck between the outhouse and the cesspool! ........

[napscoordinator]

I guess we’ll have to have another thread: “Clairity was right” — when Cain drops out and endorses Romney.

Yeah right. Why would the number one ranked candidate drop out. Perhaps your illegal alien lover Perry should drop out. Although I sure as heck am having a great laugh seeing him drop like a rock. He does give us humor. What a turd that guy is.