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To: CodeToad
Neither one exists. “natural born” was a description, not a title.

I would argue that it is a "term of art" specifically know to the founders by their reading and familiarity with the writings of Grotius, Pufendorf and Vattel, who's collective works and Vattel's specifically, are referred to as the Laws of Nations.

117 posted on 10/21/2011 9:40:38 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: DiogenesLamp

It was simply a term used to describe someone that wa sa citizen by birth, nothing complex or complicated about it.


120 posted on 10/21/2011 10:05:43 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Actually, if you knew history and read the leading landmark case, Wong Kim Ark v. US, you would know that the founders used English common law when using the term, natural born citizen, in the Constitution. Blackstone and English common law was the primary basis American jurisprudence.

Your response is an excellent illustration of why birthers have fallen flat on their face in Congress, every state legislature and court (federal or state)in their feeble quest to change the law. Maybe if birthers respected the rule of law in our society, they may be a little bit more successful.

129 posted on 10/21/2011 2:24:04 PM PDT by ydoucare
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