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Steve Jobs vowed to 'destroy' Android
BBC ^ | 10/21/11

Posted on 10/21/2011 7:07:59 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

21 October 2011 Last updated at 09:40 GMT

Steve Jobs vowed to 'destroy' Android

Steve Jobs said he wanted to destroy Android and would spend all of Apple's money and his dying breath if that is what it took to do so.

The full extent of his animosity towards Google's mobile operating system is revealed in a forthcoming authorised biography.

Mr Jobs told author Walter Isaacson that he viewed Android's similarity to iOS as "grand theft".

Apple is suing several smartphone makers which use the Android software.

According to extracts of Mr Isaacson's book, obtained by the Associated Press, Mr Jobs said: "I'm going to destroy Android, because it's a stolen product. I'm willing to go thermonuclear war on this."

He is also quoted as saying: "I will spend my last dying breath if I need to, and I will spend every penny of Apple's $40 billion in the bank, to right this wrong."

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: android; apple; google; stvejobs
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1 posted on 10/21/2011 7:08:07 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; PAR35; AndyJackson; Thane_Banquo; nicksaunt; MadLibDisease; happygrl; ...

P!


2 posted on 10/21/2011 7:09:10 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

You can have my DroidX when you take it from my cold, dead fingers!


3 posted on 10/21/2011 7:13:40 AM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The Wright brothers tried to patent flying. Imagine if one of the automakers had successfully patented using an internal combustion engine to power a vehicle, or patented the use of inflated tires.


4 posted on 10/21/2011 7:15:40 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: grobdriver

Bring your iPhones to me so that my new Droid Bionic can crush them. (OK, if I was going to crush iPhones, I’d use an HTC Thunderbolt. Those suckers are HEAVY.)

Competition is a good thing. I have no beef with Apple or their products, in fact I freely admit, as an Android fan, that the iPhone was the trailblazer that led the way for the modern smartphone. But I like the fact that there’s Android and Blackberry and Windows Phone (snicker) out there keeping Apple honest and innovating. Choice is good.

}:-)4


5 posted on 10/21/2011 7:16:23 AM PDT by Moose4 ("Oderint dum metuant" -- "Let them hate, as long as they fear." (Lucius Accius, c. 130 BC))
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To: TigerLikesRooster
I got an Android phone specifically because it was not an Apple product.
6 posted on 10/21/2011 7:16:35 AM PDT by real saxophonist (The fact that you play tuba doesn't make you any less lethal. -USMC bandsman in Iraq)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

—Mr Jobs told author Walter Isaacson that he viewed Android’s similarity to iOS as “grand theft”. —

Airbus airplanes are similar to Boeing airplanes. Most passengers don’t know the difference. Is there grand theft involved?


7 posted on 10/21/2011 7:17:44 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

—Mr Jobs told author Walter Isaacson that he viewed Android’s similarity to iOS as “grand theft”. —

Heck, I go through a lot of rental cars. Except when I rented a Hummer H3, they all pretty much look the same inside.


8 posted on 10/21/2011 7:18:32 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Mr Jobs told author Walter Isaacson that he viewed Android's similarity to iOS as "grand theft".

Would that be anything like swiping the Mac GUI from PARC Meester Jobs???

9 posted on 10/21/2011 7:20:28 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: real saxophonist

Me too, love my droid. Not so much, google.


10 posted on 10/21/2011 7:21:02 AM PDT by Dansong
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To: TigerLikesRooster

“Android still lives”


11 posted on 10/21/2011 7:21:15 AM PDT by WayneS (Comments now include 25% more sarcasm at NO additional charge.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Mr Jobs told author Walter Isaacson that he viewed Android's similarity to iOS as "grand theft".

This would be the same Steve Jobs who said something to the effect of "We [Apple] have never been ashamed to steal a great idea" or something along those lines? Didn't Jobs get the idea for the mouse from some government or military computer system he saw, among other things?

At least now his liberalism begins to make sense - he was a hyprocrite, like all liberals.

12 posted on 10/21/2011 7:23:25 AM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: cuban leaf

Imagine if cave painters had patented painting pictures on substrates. Jobs had his pluses and minuses but if he had gotten his way we would’ve all been forced to pay Apple a premium and progress would have been enslaved to whatever pace Apple had seen fit. There would not have been PC diversification or smart phone diversification all which are good for consumers and not really bad for companies like Apple either but the problem is companies think they are entitled not to have competition and that is just as dangerous a concept as those worthless fools protesting on Wallstreet. The sense of entitlement that I am so special that I should not have to prove myself in the competition of life is one that leads to stagnations and dependency. I don’t want to be dependent on government or enslaved to big businesses who shut out the competition with generally broad patents and by leveraging political connections to get laws passed that give them an unfair advantage over competitors and consumers.


13 posted on 10/21/2011 7:25:21 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Better to keep your enemy in your sights than in your camp expecting him to guard your back.)
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To: Sicon

Interesting comment from one of the ‘Pirates of Silicon Valley’.


14 posted on 10/21/2011 7:29:35 AM PDT by Azeem (There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Everybody would be much happier with a Windows Phone than either the iPhone or the Andriod anyway

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/


15 posted on 10/21/2011 7:31:19 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Azeem

Jobs took the whole icon interface idea from Xerox.


16 posted on 10/21/2011 7:31:45 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: real saxophonist
I got an Android phone specifically because it was not an Apple product.

Same here and I LOVE my DROID PRO.
17 posted on 10/21/2011 7:32:04 AM PDT by TSgt (Legal Disclaimer: View my profile at your own risk)
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To: Carry_Okie
Would that be anything like swiping the Mac GUI from PARC Meester Jobs???

To borrow (and mangle) a phrase from Whoopi Goldberg, Jobs evidently didn't consider that to be "theft theft"...

18 posted on 10/21/2011 7:32:12 AM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: Carry_Okie

Apple offered stock options to Xerox in return for getting access to the PARC research.

Android was a grand betrayal on Google´s part - they had a seat on Apple´s board of directors, and appearently used that in order to swipe the iPhone concept in order to remake what was originally supposed to be a BlackBerry ripoff into an iPhone ripoff. I don´t blame Jobs for being pissed at Google for that.


19 posted on 10/21/2011 7:32:40 AM PDT by globelamp
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To: grobdriver
You can have my DroidX when you take it from my cold, dead fingers!

Same here. Love it. I'm trying to talk Mr. Inspectorette into upgrading to a Droid from his old Motorola flip phone - LOL.

20 posted on 10/21/2011 7:33:59 AM PDT by Inspectorette
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To: TigerLikesRooster; All

I used to hate Apple stuff but now have a Macbook Pro and iPad and love them.

I have been a Droid person....quite strongly so actually. I hated the lack of freedom you have with an iDevice.

However, from just a few days/weeks into getting my Droid last April, it has been sluggish and slow to respond, only getting worse with time. This is apparently a problem with a lot of Droid models, not just my “original” one.

I am seriously considering going to the iPhone when I can do so in November.

I will miss the following: option to run Flash in the rare times I need it, widgets/customizing home screens....have a calendar and to do widget that are both invaluable and do not kill system resources since they are largely static, moving phone “desktops backgrounds,” easy app for free tethering (use this on the few trips from TX back to KS and refuse to pay Verizon a monthly tethering fee for something I only use twice a year), and finally, the ability to use my phone as a USB drive to transfer files back and forth without having to use Itunes to sync everything.

That said, while I will miss those things, I will gain a phone that actually WORKS. And some of those issues can be remedied once a jailbreak comes available for the iPhone 4s.

I was willing to live with the Droid because I wanted those things that Apple refuses to allow.

But, at some point, a phone that doesn’t take a minute to load the home screen after you wake it from sleep is a bigger desire than having Flash. I can’t tell you how annoying it is waiting for my Droid to “think” about everything. My wife’s iPhone 4s is lightning fast.


21 posted on 10/21/2011 7:34:21 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: grobdriver

Yep, I have the Droid 2 Global, which is “obsolete”, but is better, easier to use, and faster than my wife’s new iphone. I plan on getting the Droid Bionic next.


22 posted on 10/21/2011 7:43:43 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: rwfromkansas

I’m the opposite of you. I have an iPhone3G and various iPods. I bought a Barnes and Noble Color and immediately rooted it with CyanogenMod 7.

I still used my iPhone for work but I use the Nook a lot more to read books (Colonel Jeff Cooper currently), watch movies over my LAN, etc. We bought two Nooks for the price of one iPad.


23 posted on 10/21/2011 7:44:16 AM PDT by Azeem (There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo.)
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To: Swordmaker

FYI


24 posted on 10/21/2011 7:44:35 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: globelamp

I had a smartphone before they were popular. As a matter of fact I owned two generations of them before an iPhone even saw the light of day.

The argument that apple actually started the smartphone is simply not true.


25 posted on 10/21/2011 7:49:00 AM PDT by CSI007
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To: TigerLikesRooster
ipods and droids, aren't both of them products of hypocritical liberals?
26 posted on 10/21/2011 7:50:50 AM PDT by ontap
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Stolen product? Sort of like Smalltalk, or Xerox Parc?


27 posted on 10/21/2011 7:54:21 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Sicon
Didn't Jobs get the idea for the mouse from some government or military computer system he saw, among other things?

He got the idea for the mouse, GUI, and networked computers from a demo conducted by Hewlett-Packard in the 1970s.

28 posted on 10/21/2011 7:54:29 AM PDT by rllngrk33 (Things will continue getting worse until January 21, 2013.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
I will spend every penny of Apple's $40 billion in the bank, to right this wrong."

I suspect Apples shareholders would prefer a different approach.

29 posted on 10/21/2011 7:59:54 AM PDT by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: grobdriver

list the pluses of your droidx over iphone, please.


30 posted on 10/21/2011 8:04:42 AM PDT by ken21
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To: globelamp
Apple offered stock options to Xerox in return for getting access to the PARC research.

And Xerox did not accept that deal. Whose private property was that GUI?

31 posted on 10/21/2011 8:08:16 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: rwfromkansas
However, from just a few days/weeks into getting my Droid last April, it has been sluggish and slow to respond, only getting worse with time.

I'd be willing to bet that you have never cleared the cache and that most of your apps are running.

32 posted on 10/21/2011 8:08:28 AM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: TigerLikesRooster
I have an android device, I Would never buy an iProduct, unless the price was right, which to me it isn't, and probably wont ever be.

That said, Android is a ripoff of iOS, at least the look and feel. There are 100 ways of doing a touch interface, look at Windows Phone, quite different from iOS. Android is a ripoff, so I can understand Steve's problem with it.

Not a fanboy or a hater, just an honest user.

33 posted on 10/21/2011 8:12:15 AM PDT by Paradox (The rich SHOULD be paying more taxes, and they WOULD, if they could make more money.)
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To: ken21

“list the pluses of your droidx over iphone, please.”

Free music and better GPS accuracy (I use Runkeeper to track my runs and post them to FB for motivation so this is important to me). Has an SD card for storage. We don’t own a computer to dump the memory of my wife’s iphone onto so having the removable SD card is better for us. Also it is easier to use in my opinion.


34 posted on 10/21/2011 8:14:30 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: Paradox

didn’t apple already try this claiming windows was a rip off of macintosh?


35 posted on 10/21/2011 8:27:26 AM PDT by edzo4 (You call us the 'Party Of No', I call us the resistance.)
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Perhaps the owners of "star trek" should sue Apple, Inc.

Their data padd concept goes all the way back to the 60s.
36 posted on 10/21/2011 8:28:59 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: edzo4

Windows was a Steve Jobs creation that Bill Gates legally ripped off. He should have covered his behind had signed an NDA before letting Gates in to see his creation/ideas.


37 posted on 10/21/2011 8:33:44 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: globelamp
I seem to recall an old Silicon Valley joke:

Q: Where does Apple do most of its R&D?

A: In its legal department.


38 posted on 10/21/2011 8:35:08 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: TigerLikesRooster

As a developer and user of both, Job’s is right. But then again, Jobs “stole” the GUI OS from XEROX, so what comes around goes around.


39 posted on 10/21/2011 8:37:03 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: TigerLikesRooster

sour grapes.. it sounds to me.

if every “inventor” got his or her fair due, many of today’s digital magnates would not even be on the list of who came up with what... only those who saw fit to refine or appropriate “secret technologies” and improve them , not exploit them.


40 posted on 10/21/2011 9:08:41 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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41 posted on 10/21/2011 9:11:07 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: wolfman23601

Xerox PARC invented the mac/windows/gui style user interface, not Jobs. Jobs lifted it from them. Gates lifted it from Jobs and PARC after it showed promise.

You cannot copyright ideas like this and and most of the concepts were prior art so (assuming the patent office was competent, which it isn’t) no coverage there.


42 posted on 10/21/2011 9:25:38 AM PDT by Rifleman
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To: TigerLikesRooster

My Android is still working fine... Jobs... not so much.

LLS


43 posted on 10/21/2011 9:55:53 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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To: ken21
list the pluses of your droidx over iphone, please.

Nope.
Never claimed it was better/faster/more capable.
Never used an iPhone - wouldn't know - but I know this:

I like my DroidX.

44 posted on 10/21/2011 10:05:32 AM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: SunTzuWu

Cleared my cache fairly often, but I do have lots of apps running.


45 posted on 10/21/2011 10:18:45 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Guess that’s one item on his bucket list he didn’t quite get to. :-)


46 posted on 10/21/2011 10:32:19 AM PDT by Larry Lucido ("#Occupy America" is a great success! I got mail today addressed to "Occupant"!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; Airwinger; ..
Steve Jobs vowed to destroy Android! —PING!


Apple !v. Android

Please, No Flame Wars
Discuss technical issues, software, and hardware.
Don't attack people!
Don't respond to the Anti-Apple Thread Trolls!
PLEASE IGNORE THEM!!!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

47 posted on 10/21/2011 2:05:34 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

That’s some crazyass sheeet. The cancer was warping his mind. Also loony toon hyper-competitiveness for greater glory....this just might give you cancer


48 posted on 10/21/2011 2:23:43 PM PDT by dennisw (What good is a used up world and how could it be worth having - - Sting)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Apple is the darling of CNBC and Wall Street. All this adulation went to his (Steve Jobs) head


49 posted on 10/21/2011 2:25:01 PM PDT by dennisw (What good is a used up world and how could it be worth having - - Sting)
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To: Carry_Okie
Would that be anything like swiping the Mac GUI from PARC Meester Jobs???

No, because Apple PAID Xerox $7,000,000 for the visits to just look AND USE what the learned in their two eight hour visits at Xerox's Palo Alto Research Center. Apple took NO CODE, NO SOFTWARE, and the look and operation of Apple Finder is completely different than Xerox smallTalk. A CEO of Xerox several years after the fact, who was not involved, attempted to sue Apple for the "infringement, but the case was tossed out when Apple presented the signed agreement. QED, no "theft" or "swiping" took place.

You've been told this before. Yet you repeat the lie. Why?

50 posted on 10/21/2011 2:25:43 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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