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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
I'm well familiar with the history of beliefs about the shape of the Earth, and its place in the cosmos. (It's more complex than you seem to think.)

Oh, really? Then why did you post this:

You could compare Jobs to Christopher Columbus. Mariners knew for centuries that the “scientific consensus” was bogus — that the world was round not flat. None of them sailed off to “the ends of the world” on that knowledge. That's why there's a “Columbus” day.

when the scientific concensus was NOT bogus--did NOT believe in a flat earth?

79 posted on 10/24/2011 4:23:27 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Ever wake up next to someone and you can't remember their name, or how you met, or why they're dead?)
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To: Jeff Chandler

O.K. I didn’t expand before, because I didn’t want to go too far off the track of this thread.

I first considered writing “popular opinion”, or “received wisdom” — and that was certainly the case, in Columbus’ time. Amongst the masses, probably only navigators had an opinion grounded in empirical evidence. The overwhelming majority (if they thought of it at all) believed in a flat earth. I was using “scientific consensus” in much the same way as Gorebots talk about “global warming”. (Only I thought I was being clever and ironic. Unlike Gorebots, I know that science is not based on consensus.) An overwhelming majority of people, in 1492, would have told you the world was flat. If they used the language of today’s warmist masses, they’d say that the “scientific consensus” said the world was flat.

My point remains: however many people “knew” the earth was round; however many people “discovered” that fact before Columbus; it was Columbus that finally did something with the knowledge. That’s why there’s a Columbus Day; and that’s why Steve Jobs deserves credit for introducing the GUI to the great unwashed masses.


84 posted on 10/24/2011 5:01:27 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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