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Cain responds to sex harassment allegation
Washington Examiner ^ | October 30, 2011 | Byron York

Posted on 10/30/2011 7:06:28 PM PDT by markomalley

Herman Cain's campaign headquarters has released a response to a story, broken this evening on Politico, that in the 1990s two female employees of the National Restaurant Association "complained to colleagues and senior association officials about inappropriate behavior by Cain," who at the time was head of the trade group.

Calling the story "thinly source allegations," Cain spokesman J.D. Gordon said: "Since Washington establishment critics haven't had much luck in attacking Mr. Cain's ideas to fix a bad economy and create jobs, they are trying to attack him in any way they can."  Gordon did not address any of the specific allegations in the report.  Asked for a more specific answer, the campaign did not provide details.

Here is Gordon's complete response:

Inside the Beltway media attacks Cain

Fearing the message of Herman Cain who is shaking up the political landscape in Washington, Inside the Beltway media have begun to launch unsubstantiated personal attacks on Cain.

Dredging up thinly sourced allegations stemming from Mr. Cain’s tenure as the Chief Executive Officer at the National Restaurant Association in the 1990s, political trade press are now casting aspersions on his character and spreading rumors that never stood up to the facts.

Since Washington establishment critics haven't had much luck in attacking Mr. Cain's ideas to fix a bad economy and create jobs, they are trying to attack him in any way they can.

Sadly, we’ve seen this movie played out before – a prominent Conservative targeted by liberals simply because they disagree with his politics.

Mr. Cain -- and all Americans, deserve better.

Cain is likely to face questions about the matter on Monday.  He is scheduled to appear at the American Enterprise Institute in Washington in the morning to discuss his 9-9-9 tax plan, and then speak -- and take questions -- at the National Press Club at lunch.


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To: no dems

Well all I know is that there is no sex anywhere in this story. If there were we would know the details already.

So its much ado about nothing.


101 posted on 10/30/2011 8:42:26 PM PDT by o2bfree
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
The board member was upset that he or she wasn’t aware of the settlement earlier.

“What I took offense at was that it was clear that rather than deal with the issue, there was an effort to hush it up. She was offered a way out to keep quiet.”

A third party, likely a Democrat, is offended that she as a board member was not consulted prior to a settlement. The board likely had a committee to do such things or the president had inherent authority. This is not persuasive.

The fact that Politico mentions these irrelevant circumstantial facts indicates that they are grasping at straws.

Cain is saying nothing because he doesn't need to. Confidentiality agreements seal this.

In any event, there was no touching, just alleged innuendos.

102 posted on 10/30/2011 8:44:04 PM PDT by Kennard
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To: Wild Irish Rogue

This is a case where Cain should have put it out himself. Remember GWB’s DUI? He sort of hinted at it in the campaign, but it came out 4 or 5 days before election day.


103 posted on 10/30/2011 8:44:37 PM PDT by Quicksilver (Defeat Obama - zero-sum games will get us Zero, again.)
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To: Travis McGee
now that is funny, sad, and true...
104 posted on 10/30/2011 8:45:46 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Quicksilver; Raymann
This looks bad? Are you kidding? It's nothing - nada - zip!!

“The sources — which include the recollections of close associates and other documentation — describe episodes that left the women upset and offended. These incidents include conversations allegedly filled with innuendo or personal questions of a sexually suggestive nature, taking place at hotels during conferences, at other officially sanctioned restaurant association events and at the association’s offices. There were also descriptions of physical gestures that were not overtly sexual but that made women who experienced or witnessed them uncomfortable and that they regarded as improper in a professional relationship.

Boo hoo!

105 posted on 10/30/2011 8:46:57 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: no dems
"It's plausible that the media could force Cain out with this kind of stuff. Wouldn't be the first time."

One problem the media has - they can't control our vote.

They must have a big effect on you...throwing up the white flag of defeat already?

106 posted on 10/30/2011 8:49:23 PM PDT by LADY J ( Change your thoughts and you change your world.. - Norman Vincent Peale))
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To: little jeremiah

I hope I’m wrong, it doesn’t look good and there’s likely more to come.


107 posted on 10/30/2011 8:58:02 PM PDT by Quicksilver (Defeat Obama - zero-sum games will get us Zero, again.)
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To: markomalley; All

So far I have read posts virtually accusing Romney, Perry, and Rove of outing this Cain sexual harassment allegation. Whatever the truth is of these allegations, the actual source is not at this time tied to any of the three names mentioned. It is wrong to try and make political hay for one candidate by accusing the other candidates of behavior which is unverified and is an unfair, uncalled for, smear in itself. Campaigns do a lot of stupid things and negative attacks seem to have become the standard for some political managers. However, this attack on Herman Cain will not benefit any of the other candidates even if it destroyed him. There are many other sources with vested interests in keeping Obama in power to represent the democrat party and it’s socialist agenda. Attempts to pick off Republican candidates will continue and probably not a one is immune to scandalization of something in their lives, past or present. We have to keep our focus on the real enemies of this Republic.


108 posted on 10/30/2011 9:01:27 PM PDT by mountainfolk (God Bless the United States of America)
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109 posted on 10/30/2011 9:01:31 PM PDT by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: Rome2000
It worked pretty well with Thomas

That's Justice Thomas to you.

So actually, it worked not at all.

110 posted on 10/30/2011 9:02:01 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: LADY J
When they bash you like this, you must go on offensive immediately, come around from the back, get off the ropes quickly, and sucker punch them in the kidneys from behind. Herman Cain should announce, IN RETALIATION, a 24 Hour National Money Bomb Donation Drive in response, and tie it in to the desperation of the Establishment in this slander and slur. Give it a catchy line and package it with something novel. I am sure Mark Block or JD Gordon or others could come up with something out of the box, clever, humorous, in their face, irreverant, and flip this thing to their advantage, as well as bring in even MORE $$$$$ in grassroots small amounts to Team Cain. And "I Don't Believe Their Lib Lies 24-Money Bomb"

Why, to have this blowback would simply make liberal heads exlode, if both the damage control AND the going on s-hot offense could occur skillfully in the next 24-48 hour news cycle. LOL! EAGLES UP! DON'T WORRY FOLKS, WE WERE TO EXPECT THIS. TAKE THIS NEGATIVE ENERGY AND PROCESS IT TO "POSITIVE" AND TURN IT RIGHT BACK ON THEM.

111 posted on 10/30/2011 9:02:49 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Spam (in a friendly way of course) Sarah Palin's Facebook Wall that she endorse Herman Cain ASAP.)
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To: no dems
I'm sick over this.

Unbunch your panties. Politics ain't beanbag.

112 posted on 10/30/2011 9:07:28 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: AmericanInTokyo
"I am sure Mark Block or JD Gordon or others could come up with something out of the box, clever, humorous, in their face, irreverant, and flip this thing to their advantage, as well as bring in even MORE $$$$$ in grassroots small amounts to Team Cain. And "I Don't Believe Their Lib Lies 24-Money Bomb"

Great idea. If they don't think of it on their own - the 'Cain Train' followers can do it on their own!

113 posted on 10/30/2011 9:07:31 PM PDT by LADY J ( Change your thoughts and you change your world.. - Norman Vincent Peale))
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To: LibsRJerks

“So I wonder what Herman did, exactly, to these women ...like hold the door open for them or something??”

Probably called ‘em “honey”.


114 posted on 10/30/2011 9:07:36 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (Fast & Furious: Holder gone by the end of the year.)
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To: Kennard

” In any event, there was no touching, just alleged innuendos.”

“The woman revealed at the time that she had suffered what the source described as “an unwanted sexual advance”
from Cain at a hotel where an event involving the group
was taking place.”


115 posted on 10/30/2011 9:08:35 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: marty60; Jim Robinson; onyx; DJ MacWoW; TheOldLady
Viking Kitties??? I'm yearning to see some lightning. I knew the left would come up with some sex scandal but a so called "FReeper" supporting Politco and the left? Wow!!!

Zot baby Zot!!!

116 posted on 10/30/2011 9:11:22 PM PDT by Dengar01 (Dengar01 - "Heartless" since 1983!!!)
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
Quote from Politico: “The sources — which include the recollections of close associates and other documentation — describe episodes that left the women upset and offended. These incidents include conversations allegedly filled with innuendo or personal questions of a sexually suggestive nature, taking place at hotels during conferences, at other officially sanctioned restaurant association events and at the association’s offices. There were also descriptions of physical gestures that were not overtly sexual but that made women who experienced or witnessed them uncomfortable and that they regarded as improper in a professional relationship.” _____________ I find it interesting that you are on every Cain thread carrying the water for this story. So who's your candidate again?
117 posted on 10/30/2011 9:13:33 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: marty60; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; onyx; TheOldLady; DJ MacWoW
Oh I'm sorry I clicked on your profile you won't be zotted since you've been here since 1998 but by seeing your state flag I completely understand why you support the left, Obama and Politco in attacking Cain...

I'm heartless and proud baby!!!

118 posted on 10/30/2011 9:14:00 PM PDT by Dengar01 (Dengar01 - "Heartless" since 1983!!!)
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To: tflabo

Why not let it play out? Why go to war? To claim racism is a huge mistake. It won’t work and will make people angry. It didn’t work when Cain tried to jump on the racism wagon against Perry with the N-rock. People knew Perry was not a racist. If this is not true, it will certainly die a quick death. I don’t want our candidates beat up by the press or posters either. I intend to vote for the last man standing and I hope his credibility is still intact.


119 posted on 10/30/2011 9:14:19 PM PDT by FryingPan101 (Perry/Palin)
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To: Wild Irish Rogue

I’M thrilled there was no sex involved. And there was no harassment in an office setting thank god.

The liberals, Perry supporters, and Romney supporters will have to come up with something better than this!


120 posted on 10/30/2011 9:15:10 PM PDT by o2bfree
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To: NoMitt

if hitting the ground counts as stoppinng your free fall then yes, Perry had stopped his freefall, but this has Mitt’s fingerprints all over it. But regardless of who was responsible for this... he ANY of the candidates try to go after Herman on this... they will 100% destroy their candidacy. Heck if they even get checky with it, it would probably destroy them, this is radioactive to all of them, and they would all be smart to take Herman’s side on this and circle the wagons agaist this type of frivolous smear of another candidate and good man.

lol


121 posted on 10/30/2011 9:16:11 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Cain 2012!)
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To: biggredd1

What ever happened to Larry ? Havent heard hide nor hair about him in a year or two.


122 posted on 10/30/2011 9:19:02 PM PDT by simplesimon (Never kick a cow turd on a hot day ~ Hank Williams Jr on the Glenn Beck radio show 10-12-2011)
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To: Impy; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj
Is it sad I'm praying that Texas becomes annexed by Mexico?

To certain Texans, SUPER LIBERAL AMNESTY COMMUNISTS > any American. Why? because he's from Texas!

To the morons who emigrated to Texas, Texas used to be called Tejas.

You had to get a drunk from Tennessee to get your state independent from Mexico, and how do you thank the rest of the union? You support amnesty, free tuition to illegals, guns to illegal gangs, rapes and murders across the Rio Grande and call the rest of us racist for not supporting Rick Perry???

I'll take 50 more years of Obama than a wolf in sheep's clothing. Atleast with Obama I know I'm getting raped, with Perry I get double talk and now suddenly Cain has sexual allegations launched against him? I guess Good Ole Fat Boy Karl Rove finally realized Herman Cain is here to stay!!! FUKR, FUFNC, FUMR, and FUBO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

123 posted on 10/30/2011 9:19:44 PM PDT by Dengar01 (Dengar01 - "Heartless" since 1983!!!)
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To: marty60

Marty- if your guy Perry were ahead in the polls the Libs would be dragging out the Gay card, the Anita caught him in the act and the Miami drag bar incident allegatons - so be careful about your disparaging conclusion on Mr. Cain.

With all due respect!


124 posted on 10/30/2011 9:20:34 PM PDT by not2worry
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To: SteveAustin

“Someone just emailed me that they heard the Rick Perry camp let this one
loose. Has anyone seen anything on this?”

It wouldn’t benefit Perry. He’s almost in last place. Cain’s people would not go to Perry if the story is true. Cain’s people would go to his friend , Romney. Your friend who emailed you is way off on this one.
if I were Cain, I would just ignore it. Twenty years ago. Has nothing to do with anything if there is no proof.


125 posted on 10/30/2011 9:22:42 PM PDT by FryingPan101 (Perry/Palin)
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To: Quicksilver

I don’t know, I’ve read about 3 threads so far and that’s all I have time for now.

Looks like total nothing to me.


126 posted on 10/30/2011 9:25:16 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: RnMomof7; markomalley
I smell Mitt Romney’s hand in this..if the dems had this, they would have held it to use in the general election...

Don't know if it's Romney but you're correct saying the dems would have held onto this information.

127 posted on 10/30/2011 9:25:57 PM PDT by Doofer ("If debt is the problem, how is more debt the solution"?)
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To: SteveAustin

I wouldn’t believe the rumors until verified.


128 posted on 10/30/2011 9:27:28 PM PDT by MEG33 (God Bless Our Military Men And Women)
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert; All

If there was anything of substance to this, Herman Cain would have never run for President, knowing that it would come out. So, I’m sure this is much ado about nothing.


129 posted on 10/30/2011 9:27:43 PM PDT by no dems (Gingrich/Cain: The Dream Ticket in 2012 !)
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To: NoMitt

“Wrong.. this has Perry written all over it. His free fall finally settled and now he’s launching attacks against conservatives.

Rick Perry is a sleazeball.”

Really interesting you would automatically point at a candidate instead of the Obama camp. Wouldn’t it make more sense that Obama and company are reminding Cain that his anti-Obama rhetoric is over the cliff lately? And they’re not going to take it anymore.

If you have faith in your candidate, let it play out.


130 posted on 10/30/2011 9:30:37 PM PDT by FryingPan101 (Perry/Palin)
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To: markomalley

Meanwhile, “bereaved” muslims are suing a Catholic school accusing them of having crosses on display.

Sexual harassment? Holy Cross harassment? Whatever...


131 posted on 10/30/2011 9:31:07 PM PDT by takenoprisoner (Constitutional Conservatism is Americanism.)
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To: no dems

I think so, too..It won’t matter at all in a few days..
I will never forget the Thomas hearings..

That was a Senate confirmation ..not Politico.


132 posted on 10/30/2011 9:35:22 PM PDT by MEG33 (God Bless Our Military Men And Women)
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
” In any event, there was no touching, just alleged innuendos.”

“The woman revealed at the time that she had suffered what the source described as “an unwanted sexual advance” from Cain at a hotel where an event involving the group was taking place.”

There were no allegations of touching, only of innuendo. "Sexual advance" covers everything: physical, verbal and gesture, just like "assault" versus "battery".

133 posted on 10/30/2011 9:35:27 PM PDT by Kennard
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To: FryingPan101

Just an FYI. The reason that several people, including some pretty big names, suggest this is because there have been two credible warnings of a smear campaign on Cain coming from the Perry camp, the most recent was just last week - and the warning came directly from a staff member to Iowa volunteers.


134 posted on 10/30/2011 9:39:47 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: GOPyouth

go look at NoMitt’s postings over the whole 5 days he/she has joined.


135 posted on 10/30/2011 9:40:16 PM PDT by simplesimon (Never kick a cow turd on a hot day ~ Hank Williams Jr on the Glenn Beck radio show 10-12-2011)
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To: LibertarianInExile
“In a series of comments over the past 10 days, Cain and his campaign repeatedly declined to respond directly about whether he ever faced allegations of sexual harassment at the restaurant association. They have also declined to address questions about specific reporting confirming that there were financial settlements in two cases in which women leveled complaints.”

If this were true, wouldn’t the payoff be in the National Restaurant Association’s federal reports? They may not be a 501(c)3 but they probably have to file regular statements of their expenditures with the IRS. Should be easy enough to check these facts if they have an idea of the time this happened.

Whoraldo made the point that if there was a lawsuit (however frivolous) that was settled, part of the deal would be a non-disclosure agreement. So Cain cannot answer the questions directly. If that's true it's going to be ugly.

136 posted on 10/30/2011 9:40:26 PM PDT by Hugin ("Most time a man'll tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear"--Open Range)
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To: justsaynomore

I am not saying that is what it is, it could be Romney or Rove for all I know. I would think liberals would sit on this until after the nomination, if Cain were to be the nominee.

I think the establishment GOP may hate Cain as much as much as the liberals.


137 posted on 10/30/2011 9:43:22 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: marty60

....................
uh huh a man forgets about something like this? RIIGHT!

Cain is UNBELIEVABLE!


See post #136.


138 posted on 10/30/2011 9:43:35 PM PDT by Hugin ("Most time a man'll tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear"--Open Range)
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To: Quicksilver

If there was a settlement, there would be a non-disclosure agreement, so Cain couldn’t even admit there was such a suit, or say anything else about it. It sounds like it was frivolous in the first place, but it puts Cain in a real bind, unless the plaintiffs come out in public.


139 posted on 10/30/2011 9:47:28 PM PDT by Hugin ("Most time a man'll tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear"--Open Range)
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To: justsaynomore

Yeah. I saw that too. I didn’t think they were credible warnings at all. I also saw that the Perry camp was going to destroy Romney quickly. I just shook my head. Foolish stuff. It shows you how the media thinks we’re a bunch of stupid kids. Perry is in no position to go negative. He has to sell his policy one on one. Michele Bachman is only hanging around so she can attack Perry for Romney. I honestly believed Cain was in for that reason too...but it looks like he wants the gig.

The only person who will benefit from this all out Republican war is Newt Gingrich. I think the story was planted by the Obama camp. They hate Cain attacking Obama and thus stories are going to start coming out just as they did when Obama and Hillary were competing.

If Cain is clean on this and holds on to his dignity by not playing the race card, nothing else will stick to him either. If the story has some legs, well, it’s best we know now. A lot of big names have endorsed him and a lot of credibility is at stake.
My choice is Perry. If a clean Cain is the last man standing, I’ll vote for him.


140 posted on 10/30/2011 10:22:36 PM PDT by FryingPan101 (Perry/Palin)
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To: FryingPan101

They are credible, as I said, they came from a staff member to volunteers (of which I am one)


141 posted on 10/30/2011 10:26:37 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
America's best hope is the Left's worst nightmare.

That's not a coincidence.

142 posted on 10/30/2011 11:21:10 PM PDT by Savage Beast (A backwoods southern lawyer is a safer trustee for your soul than a Washington politician.)
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To: parksstp
Romney or Perry behind this? Take your pick.

I had it pegged as Romney or Obama, but Perry's Arizona coordinator posted on Twitter about this three days ago, in response to another person saying that the only reason whites are supporting Cain is to prove they are not racist:

@victoria_29 @proudoftexas this is the same thing I am hearing in AZ! Wait til they actually do the oppo on @THEHermanCain. It's not pretty.

http://twitter.com/#!/slmbolick/status/129770632018788352

It was in poor taste for a Perry coordinator to say that whites are supporting Cain to prove they are not racist, but for the Arizona state coordinator for Perry to come out and admit knowledge of an upcoming attack on Cain three days before Politico rolled it out....just Damn!

How could this Shawnna Bolick person be that damn stupid? That's a special kind of stupid you don't run into just anywhere.

Since the Perry team will probably try and scrub this in the morning, although hard to do since others are copying it down, here's a screenshot:


143 posted on 10/31/2011 12:08:33 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: justsaynomore

“They are credible, as I said, they came from a staff member to volunteers (of which I am one)”
You are a volunteer for who?
I would be the first to admit I know nothing about how campaigns are run. I hardly ever listen to anything but policy and I haven’t heard any from Romney and Cain. The 9-9-9 plan is not settled. Romney says nothing. Only Perry and Newt talk actual policy.
I would be disappointed to learn the Perry camp had anything to do with the leak about Cain....unless of course, the leak is true. I don’t think anyone should get a pass just because they’re black. We’ll see as it plays out.


144 posted on 10/31/2011 12:09:44 AM PDT by FryingPan101 (Perry/Palin)
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To: Dengar01

Sheesh


145 posted on 10/31/2011 12:13:23 AM PDT by FryingPan101 (Perry/Palin)
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To: justsaynomore
Just an FYI. The reason that several people, including some pretty big names, suggest this is because there have been two credible warnings of a smear campaign on Cain coming from the Perry camp, the most recent was just last week - and the warning came directly from a staff member to Iowa volunteers.

Well we know the Arizona coordinator for Perry directly mentioned it on October 27, did not know about Iowa. How the Hell could Perry have such stupid people around him that are willing to publicly talk about it?
146 posted on 10/31/2011 12:13:54 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: fatnotlazy

Unfortunately, if payments were made there is some sort of basis to reporting the story.

And Obama’s guys would never have let this drop this early.


147 posted on 10/31/2011 12:14:04 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: FryingPan101

It is a shame, because Cain talks policy all the time. If you would like to know more about his policy - here are some places to start: http://www.hermancain.com/the-issues and http://www.hermancainissues.com and his commentary history going back to 2005 at http://www.thinkersvoice.com/content/cainscommentary

Why did you feel it necessary to bring up race?

Reminds me of this
http://twitter.com/#!/slmbolick/status/129770632018788352


148 posted on 10/31/2011 12:23:25 AM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: 9YearLurker
And Obama’s guys would never have let this drop this early.

Before I knew about Perry's Arizona coordinator talking about this three days ago, I would have said Romney or Obama.

My first thought was that Obama or Romney got spooked by Cain's increasing donations and poll numbers and they were trying to nip it in the bud. If I didn't see it for my own eyes that Perry's campaign knew about this last week, I would have pegged Obama's campaign. Obama can't risk facing Cain. Romney is a safer bet for Obama, because if Romney gets the nod, the MSM will try to make sure that 100% of voters know Romneycare helped lay the foundation for Obamacare and that Romney is a Mormon.

I still can't get over the stupidity of Perry's campaign to openly discuss this last week. How freaking stupid could you be? This Shawnna Bolick might have just done a lot of harm to Perry's campaign and she'll probably lose her position. If she'd kept her mouth shut like any halfway intelligent person, we'd be looking at Obama or Romney as the culprits.

Somebody is going to ask Perry about how his Arizona coordinator knew about this attack against Cain last week. Can't wait to hear his response.
149 posted on 10/31/2011 12:23:45 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: rintense

This is just some reporter looking to make a name for him self, a la Woodward/Bernstein.

Even the Austin Chronicle couldn’t dig up anything on Perry, and they said they tried last year. There’s been a reward out for months, and no response.


150 posted on 10/31/2011 12:24:30 AM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed: Will use. Cut spending, cut spending, cut spending, now,now,now!)
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