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Perry endorses work visas for illegal immigrants
Las Vegas Sun ^ | Nov. 3, 2011 | The Associated Press

Posted on 11/03/2011 5:24:19 PM PDT by moonshinner_09

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To: mylife

“If it fines business then it hurts business.”

E-Verify doesn’t “Fine Business” unless that business intends to the BREAK THE LAW.

But then you already knew that...you’re just trolling at this point.


221 posted on 11/03/2011 8:38:25 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Gingrich is a vote for Romney)
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To: moonshinner_09; shield; smoothsailing; Cincinatus' Wife; DRey
Texas Gov. Rick Perry says America should extend work visas to allow illegal immigrants to move freely between the U.S. and their home countries _ but opposes a path to citizenship.

Oh thank you, thank you, thank you, Rick, thank you!!! Trying to buy enough Hispanic votes to avoid irrelevancy isn't going to save you because you've just ended any further claims that you care a whit about American sovereignty. Of course, some of us already knew that, but now I don't have to hear it any more. Do I?

222 posted on 11/03/2011 8:38:33 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The RINOcrat Party is still in charge. There has never been a conservative American government.)
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To: SoConPubbie

For the duration.


223 posted on 11/03/2011 8:38:39 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: free me
There will be another day.

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224 posted on 11/03/2011 8:38:45 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: katiedidit1

Fact this is amnesty by another name, designed to let compassionate conservatives feel good about robbing taxpayers.


225 posted on 11/03/2011 8:38:58 PM PDT by itsahoot (There was a bloodless coup in 08, and no one seemed to notice. God help us.)
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To: BenKenobi

What is Cain’s plan to secure the border and deal with illegals and immigration?


226 posted on 11/03/2011 8:39:07 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Tammy8

“Have you noticed the border issue trolls are really quiet between Presidential elections? “

Yea, good point. I did notice that there were A LOT of new names posting on FR, once Perry decided to run.


227 posted on 11/03/2011 8:41:11 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Gingrich is a vote for Romney)
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To: SoConPubbie

You know? A lot of these people are really slick.
They have false documentation that even the fed doesnt have a handle on.

Are you saying that you think the local businessman should be penalized if he gets duped with false documentation?

Does the local Business guy have the tools to filter out the illegals?

The fed doesn’t seem to have those tools, there are 12 million illegals here now that they cant seem to process.

Do you really think that Joes auto shop should be the ones that take the hit for this situation?


228 posted on 11/03/2011 8:41:47 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: EGPWS
What would be appropriate for Perry to say, kill them or what?

What say YOU on how to handle it Mr. Kenobe?

Piece of cake. Set up a bounty system with heavy penalties for false arrest or harassment of either citizens or legitimate immigrants, resident aliens, and visitors. Not only would it provide many Americans with much needed work, the illegals would leave in a heartbeat.

229 posted on 11/03/2011 8:44:25 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The RINOcrat Party is still in charge. There has never been a conservative American government.)
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To: mylife
Do you really think that Joes auto shop should be the ones that take the hit for this situation?

Another strawman setup by a dishonest Freeper.

E-verify, and any future laws that, I hope, get enacted will I am sure work to make sure there is no doubt about the Illegal nature of a potential or existing worker.

Do you have any honesty in your soul at all?
230 posted on 11/03/2011 8:44:31 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

So having an honest open discussion is now grounds for banning on FR?

Is that what you are calling on the owner to do?

Look, I have been respectful and only suggest that some folks have equated this thing to open amnesty which it is not.

It is my heartfelt belief that Perry knows more about the border situation than any of us her or any of the other candidates.

He knows the frustrations of the Federal Gov in this regard and he along with Greg Abbot have challenged the fed more than any other candidate on the way the FED ties states hands on solving this border issue.


231 posted on 11/03/2011 8:48:30 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
Lets say processing one illegal out of country costs 5K. To deport 12 million would cost us 6 Trillion.

There has to be a better way.

There is.

Enforce existing law. Use E-verify to confirm employability. Prosecute businesses that knowingly hire illegals. Restrict benefits to citizens.

The illegals will self-deport. They'll even buy their own bus ticket. Won't cost taxpayers a dime.

232 posted on 11/03/2011 8:51:27 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: moonshinner_09

Unbelievable. I guess Perry said this so he could end the nightmare of his abortive presidential run. This is worse than his “heartless” comment.


233 posted on 11/03/2011 8:51:54 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: SoConPubbie; mylife

E-verify is free to use and if an illegal somehow gets by it Joe’s auto shop is of the hook.

I know you know this, so does mylife. This proves your assertion that mylife, like most perrybots, is dishonest.

It’s a shame they get to push their garbage on FR.


234 posted on 11/03/2011 8:52:01 PM PDT by free me (heartless)
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To: BobL

No. You are incorrect.
E verify places the Feds responsibility in the matter on businessmen and then threatens them with fines.

That is Perry problem with E Verify and I agree.

You slough off your duty as the Fed, to a private citizen and then hold a fiscal gun to his head?

How is this conservative?


235 posted on 11/03/2011 8:52:16 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

“No. You are incorrect.
E verify places the Feds responsibility in the matter on businessmen and then threatens them with fines.”

I guess you must be thinking of your own version of E-Verify, because it’s OBVIOUS that the one we’re talking about that’s in use, in the United States, indemnifies employers that use it. But then you’ve been told that 20 times or so, so it’s obviously you’re just trolling at this point.


236 posted on 11/03/2011 8:55:58 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Gingrich is a vote for Romney)
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To: free me

What happens if a guy hires an illegal and the paperwork looks legit, but the Fed determines that the hire was an illegal?

Do they get fined?

Maybe I don’t understand all the details.


237 posted on 11/03/2011 8:56:21 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: TLI

I hope so


238 posted on 11/03/2011 8:56:36 PM PDT by free me (heartless)
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To: mylife
If it [E-verify] fines business then it hurts business.

E-verify doesn't "fine" business. Regulators do.

If regulators fined a business for failing to use E-verify or for hiring workers who failed the E-verify test, would you have a problem with that?

239 posted on 11/03/2011 8:58:19 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: txroadkill
Most Illegals entered legally but have over stayed their VISA

That doesn't sound credible to me, and I doubt there are any studies to back that up. From what I've observed (having lived in the southwest US my whole life), most illegals from south of the border came here illegally to begin with.

240 posted on 11/03/2011 9:00:04 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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