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To: BobL
The problem is you don't understand the fight. This isn't about letting them in, it's about them already being here and states having their hands tied by the feds.

Here is why Perry is right.

Its all about getting them on record.

Here is how it works now.

 If an illegal that "swam across the Rio" gets pulled over in Texas and they don't have a Driver's License or any other form of ID they are going to be booked with an ID hold. That means that they will not be released until their identity is proven. There are only two ways to do that, finger prints or someone with proper ID has to either bring them their ID or has to be able to credibly vouch for them under penalty of perjury. All a cop or jailer can do is ask, 'are you an American?' If they are here illegally and have never had contact with Law enforcement in the US their prints will not be on file, they also are not going to have anyone come and get them because they will provide proof that they are here illegally. So we are left with them either telling the truth or lying. If they tell the truth we can turn them over to ICE, if they lie, we can not turn someone who claims to be an American citizen over to ICE no matter how much our gut tells us they are lying. So now they are here, stuck in jail and we have to wait until they decide jail sucks and then tell the truth. The problem with that is that jail is usually better than their village in Mexico or whatever hell hole they are from.

Even when they do make it to the Feds the Feds are going to help them file the forms they need to get a hearing and then release them back into the state until their court date, which no one will or can enforce that will probably be 5 years later anyway.

Most Illegals entered legally but have over stayed their VISA but unless USCIS has put out a warrant or deportation notice on them Law Enforcement will have no way of knowing they are here illegally. A worker ID system would change that. There would be a system to track them and ID them and deport them. However, it is all useless unless we secure the border first.

107 posted on 11/03/2011 6:51:13 PM PDT by txroadkill (FreeRepublic.com- "A Wretched Hive of Scum and Villany" - Zotted Romney Troll)
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To: txroadkill

“There would be a system to track them and ID them and deport them. However, it is all useless unless we secure the border first. “

Nice try. Just bring this up draws ILLEGALS here, and believe me they follow our immigration debate even more than Americans. This country needs to speak with ONE VOICE, and that voice is that ILLEGALS will not be REWARDED with work permits (or any other benefits, for that matter)...that simple.

Work permits themselves are fine if done right, as long as the Illegals go home, and get in line behind the people that DIDN’T break the law.


118 posted on 11/03/2011 6:58:47 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Gingrich is a vote for Romney)
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To: txroadkill

Agree with some of what you say. That if they were on record it may be easier to deport them. I would say if they can’t give a SS# if they are an adult then they are illegal though. Agree we must secure the border. Is Perry wanting to do that ?


119 posted on 11/03/2011 6:58:57 PM PDT by Carry me back
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