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To: drierice
A great HBO documentary on Frazier

Was that the one about the "Thrilla in Manilla"? That was an amazing piece of work. I never realized that Frazier and Ali had developed a true hatred for each other. Smokin' Joe finally got fed up with Ali's taunting and insulting remarks and simply decided to go into the ring and bash his brains in. It was hinted in the movie that in fact, Ali's dementia may have had its origins in that fight -- it was truly brutal.

8 posted on 11/08/2011 2:22:35 AM PST by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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To: Cincinatus

Frasier had a great response before their first fight, when Ali said something like he was God; Fraiser said God was going to get his ass beat tonight, and he got Ali good.

While Ali won the next two, Frasier won the one that mattered: they were both undefeated heavyweight champions (Ali had his belt stripped earlier because of the draft opposition).


9 posted on 11/08/2011 2:35:46 AM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: Cincinatus

It may have been, I can’t recall the title. But it had to be the best documentary made on Frazier, with a fairly recent scene of him watching a video of Thrilla In Manila at home with his comments. He always wanted one more fight with Ali.


10 posted on 11/08/2011 3:01:49 AM PST by drierice
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To: Cincinatus
A great HBO documentary on Frazier

Was that the one about the "Thrilla in Manilla"? That was an amazing piece of work. I never realized that Frazier and Ali had developed a true hatred for each other. Smokin' Joe finally got fed up with Ali's taunting and insulting remarks and simply decided to go into the ring and bash his brains in. It was hinted in the movie that in fact, Ali's dementia may have had its origins in that fight -- it was truly brutal.


Frazier and Ali had a interesting relationship.

Frazier loaded Ali money and helped Ali get his boxing license back after Ali lost his boxing license because of his opposition to the draft.

Then before their first fight, Ali taunted and insulted Joe, calling him ugly, slow and worst of all, a Uncle Tom. Ali was just trying to build the gate for the fight by creating hype, he really didn't dislike Frazier. However, Frazier took Ali taunts personally and hated Ali the rest of his life. In any case, both men will be bound together by the great fights that they fought against each other.

RIP Joe.
13 posted on 11/08/2011 4:36:39 AM PST by Ticonderoga34
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