Posted on 11/09/2011 10:31:05 PM PST by tcrlaf
“Remain calm. All is well!!”
Thoughtful post, thanks.
I’m sure the trustees would enjoy reading it while forking over the millions of dollars they’ll be shelling out when the hysteria calms down and they realize they were influenced by media frenzy, not proper legal procedure or common sense.
You left out Paterno reported it the VP in charge of campus security at the same time he reported it to the AD....The VP is directly in charge of the Campus Police force that has over 80 sworn law enforcement officers....
Paterno didn’t witness anything but got a report from a graduate student.
Supposedly the AD and VP/Police investigated and nothing became of it....
Was Paterno to launch his own independant investigation?
I’m not a Paterno or Penn State fan but didn’t the guy do the right thing based on those facts....Would you believe the graduate student or the administration/Campus Police?
The other coach was a close friend known to Paterno for years, if you had a close friend that never exhibit deviant behavior and you received a single report from a graduate student, and you then reported that behavior to the authorities with the result they reported nothing happened.
Would you go on a crusade or consider it a resolved issue? Hindsight is 20/20...At the time with the facts then he probably considered the report BS but did the right thing and reported it...
The question is why didn’t the graduate student who directly saw it go to the police but instead went to Paterno???
My point is everyone on FR is quick to hang Paterno but it appears with the facts available at the time he did the right thing....
Time will bring out all the facts....
The school may be shelling out millions to these boys. I don’t see those fired reaping millions from wrongful termination claims. They likely violated a variety of clauses in their contracts. The school is very late to doing the right thing, but it had to do it. This isn’t like Duke lacrosse, where Duke destroyed people based only on the vehemently disputed word of a crazy woman - whom they chose to credit just because she was a minority.
The only hysteria I see here - in contrast to Duke - is from an immature student population. They are throwing a tantrum because their party culture is at risk. They don’t care about kids being homosexually raped, apparently. They’ve been raised in a culture that legalizes and makes excuses for horrific behavior.
Now, if the white males of PSU had been fired for covering up the rape of minority women in its locker room by a white male coach or player, I doubt these students would feel it was socially acceptable to riot over the firings.
“They are rioting because they fired a man who harbored a child molester?”
A man molesting a boy gets no due process. This has to stop. Send a message.
Society is being destroyed because monsters like this coach and his protectors exist.
They need to be purged. How are they to be purged. Burn them.
Let the boys and/or their parents toss the torches.
Break out the tear gas and rubber bullets already...
“Cut the Cake!!”
Regarding the witnessing of a criminal act - IF there is a demonstratable policy at the university that states or suggests that those connected with the university contact non-police university employees instead of the university police department (at most PUBLIC universities today the officers are sworn, state or local, police officers) or the local or state police, then I would think the harmed would have a potential lawsuit because of that policy.
Clearly Paterno was guilty of bad judgment. Even if the grad student came to him with some vague statement about “activity of a sexual nature,” I can’t see why he wouldn’t have asked clarifying questions unless he wanted plausible deniability. I would have asked clarifying questions.
Also Paterno should have made the announcement last night. I’m not saying he would have staved off the riots but I think they would have been less likely. Yes I agree it would have increased his civil liability, but he needed to man up and admit his success had not come with honor.
I think Paterno's contract was up this year anyway. Football coaches get fired all the time with years left on their contracts. The schools would rather pay the remainder of the contract than continue on the current course. What is likely to happen with Spanier, is he will quietly continue to teach at close to his current salary or retire if eligible.
Try explaining that to one of 80 boys that was forcibly raped n the locker room. I cannot believe you, nor others on this thread are actually complaining about this man being fired. It is absolutely the right thing to do. Period.
Papa Joe deserves zero leniency.
He put his own ego and playing football games ahead of protecting children from being raped.
It’s that kind of selfish, immoral behavior that perpetuates scenes like we saw on campus.
I cannot fathom if a grown man is witnessing the violation of a child in a locker room or shower...calls his own father for guidance? Why not the police? Why not beat the @#$% out of the guy? Why not rescue the child?
Keep in mind they were fired for how the situation was (not) handled, not for what happened at the hands of the pedophile.
Hence chants of “f*** the media” and the flipped tv van.
Wow. If that’s the most intelligent response Penn State students could come up with, maybe the whole university should be closed. There’s no education going on.
“I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Penn State is a cult and the football program is their shrine”
I used to joke that we’d wake up one morning and find the entire Happy Valley dead, wearing thick black-rimmed glasses and white socks, with poison blue Kool aid in their hands.
Now it’s tragic rather than funny.
; )
Frankly, I am not surprised what happened. From someone who watches college football, and not just the University of Connecticut football, I am still very, very stunned what happened at Penn State.
This is a very, very tragic situation all around.
Thanks for the eyewitness reports.
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