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Cult! A Classic False Claim
Mormon Defense League ^ | October 9, 2011 | Mormon Defense League

Posted on 11/12/2011 10:43:37 AM PST by Saundra Duffy

Some public figures have labeled the “Mormon” church as a “cult”. Most recently, ABC News reported that Dallas Pastor Robert Jeffress applied such a label in an interview following a political gathering where Jeffress introduced a political rival to Mormon candidate Mitt Romney.

Use of such a term to describe Mormonism is highly offensive to members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. “Cult” carries the connotation of dangerous, even violent groups whose beliefs are irrational and whose practices are immoral and lawless (Koresh and the Branch Davidians, Heaven’s Gate, Aum Shinrikyo, and The People’s Temple are all prominent examples) . The term cannot be applied to Mormons unless it is so broadly defined that its use could be applied to virtually any religious body.

Like racist language, the use of the word “cult” to describe a religion usually tells us very little about the religion, but a great deal about the person using the word. In short, it tells us only that the person using the label “cult” doesn’t like the religion in question, or thinks it is illegitimate. Bryan Wilson, a Fellow of All Souls College, Oxford, and a noted sociologist of minority religions noted:

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To: svcw

It is painful watching you fall so short!


301 posted on 11/13/2011 1:57:58 PM PST by restornu (Love One Another)
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To: restornu

“You will never find a book in Deseret or other LDS out that preaches hate of another faith”

THE FOUNDATION of mormonism is that Christianity is false. By mormon definition, disagreement is hate.
Voila, LDS through and through is hateful to Christians.

What are those 50,000 missionaries doing, except communicating that Christian Churches are false?


302 posted on 11/13/2011 2:01:41 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (You know, 99.99999965% of the lawyers give all of them a bad name)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; restornu

Apparently that “whores of Babylon” and “abomination” comment in lds scripture was not talking about hatred towards Christians in mormon scripture but something else entirely.


303 posted on 11/13/2011 2:24:20 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; restornu

I found this resty. CD, Book and video: http://deseretbook.com/Book-Mormon-LDS-Distribution-Center/i/3218611


304 posted on 11/13/2011 2:28:19 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
I know of no verified instances of anyone being required to produce a W-2 form for the church.
305 posted on 11/13/2011 4:02:50 PM PST by BlueMoose
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To: restornu

Whether or not the paperwork is accurate, are you or are you not required to tithe a fixed percentage? Are you able to give a very small amount or nothing at all without reprimand?

Oh and btw, If the Book of Mormon contains the “fulness of the everlasting gospel”, why doesn’t it say anything about so many important teachings such as eternal progression, celestial marriage, the Word of Wisdom, the plurality of gods, the pre-existence of man, our mother in heaven, baptism for the dead, etc?

Please square these practices with the Word of God. All are anti-Biblical and in complete disagreement with Scripture and I find that far more offensive than you find anti-Mormonism.

Yes, we Christians are permitted offense by your beliefs just as you are offended by ours. Are we supposed to remain silent while you try to discredit the omnipresence of our Savior? It works both ways, you know.


306 posted on 11/13/2011 4:06:46 PM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

“You will never find a book in Deseret or other LDS out that preaches hate of another faith”

THE FOUNDATION of mormonism is that Christianity is false. By mormon definition, disagreement is hate.
Voila, LDS through and through is hateful to Christians.

What are those 50,000 missionaries doing, except communicating that Christian Churches are false?

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That is an inaccurate assessment maybe even bias towards the LDS Missionaries who purpose is to share the everlasting gospel as recorded in Revelation 14:6

Rev 14
6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

Which includes the Old and New Testament, The Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants and The Pearls of Great Price.


307 posted on 11/13/2011 5:06:20 PM PST by restornu (Love One Another)
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To: restornu

“Which includes the Old and New Testament, The Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants and The Pearls of Great Price.”

Isn’t that amazing! Revelation NEVER once ever mentions the Book of Moronism, or the Dumb and Convoluteds, nor the Black Pearl from Pirates of the Caribbean!

The Bible specifies exactly what the Gospel is way before Revelation. It was and is sufficient to save. Always has been and always will be. Nothing can ever be added to it or taken away.

No false worthiness needed.
No moronic temples needed.
No dead-dunking needed.
No magic underoos needed.
No polygamy needed.
No making God into an idol needed.
No created Jesus needed.
No moronic polytheism needed.
No celestial sex needed.
No becoming a god needed.
No secret rituals needed.

Not a single thing in mormonism is needed, nor compatible with God’s Eternal Gospel.
It alone is sufficient to save via GRACE alone and received by FAITH alone.

Which brings us back full circle to mormon missionaries going out to LIE to Christians
and telling them their church is false.


308 posted on 11/13/2011 5:42:38 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (You know, 99.99999965% of the lawyers give all of them a bad name)
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To: svcw

Those same comments can also be found in the New Testament

Revelation 17:5

5 And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon the Great, the Mother of Harlots and Abominations of the Earth.

Alma 37:21

21 And now, I will speak unto you concerning those twenty-four plates, that ye keep them, that the mysteries and the works of darkness, and their secret works, or the secret works of those people who have been destroyed, may be made manifest unto this people; yea, all their murders, and robbings, and their plunderings, and all their wickedness and abominations, may be made manifest unto this people; yea, and that ye preserve these interpreters.

Glenn Beck in Israel Restoring Courage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8JqCNDSAnM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8JqCNDSAnM&NR=1

Glenn Beck’s Restoring Courage Rally - “One Man, With One God, Makes A Difference”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXyNbQd9bRM&feature=related


309 posted on 11/13/2011 5:56:06 PM PST by restornu (Love One Another)
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis

Whether or not the paperwork is accurate, are you or are you not required to tithe a fixed percentage? Are you able to give a very small amount or nothing at all without reprimand?

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Tithing is a covenant between you and the Lord if you lie about your covenant that rest on you head not the Lord’s servant.

Some are not ready to a full tithe and may never be that is their choice.

The Lord helps those who help themselves.

Like in life one can improve their state of happiness just how much is one willing to practice and apply the principles to achived the Blessings!

As I continue reading your post I realized this inquiry is not about understanding just another ploy.


310 posted on 11/13/2011 6:12:49 PM PST by restornu (Love One Another)
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To: restornu
I am not pretending to seek understanding. Is this your way of accusing me of playing you along? How ridiculous is that? That is your ploy to be the victim.

I repeat. You are offensive to me, a Christian, with your perversion of God's Word. Do you practice a double standard? Am I not entitled to accuse you of attacking my faith? You are disputing my beliefs.......no differently than I am disputing yours. My inerrant and complete Bible, the Holy Word of God, has been challenged and toyed with by you and yours.

I was pretty clear in my question.....no trickery here. You are so entrenched that the truth could slap you on both sides of your face and bloody your nose and you'd still hang in there with Joseph Smith and the boys.

I am honestly sorry for you. I know that Jesus did it all for me and nothing else was needed. You, on the other hand, see yourself as still working to gain His approval which is laughable. Pathetic............seriously. You are still hoping you make it to one of your levels of heaven and I already know that my name is in the Book of Life because Jesus said so and He can't lie. Your name could be there too if you turned to Christ and away from your false doctrine.

311 posted on 11/13/2011 6:45:25 PM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: restornu

I wanted to add that I’m letting go of this thread. I’ve made my points and I can see when the brainwashed are impenetrable. I really wish a faith change for you. Who knows? Maybe a miracle will happen.


312 posted on 11/13/2011 6:48:50 PM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis

I see you’re familiar with restornu and her apologist posse. Don’t let them get to you. It’s their schtick to try and get a ‘mean’ reply out of you then whine victimhood and claim JR has it in for Mormons at FR. That they continue to have posting privileges contradicts their claim, but there ya go, ration is not their best suit.


313 posted on 11/13/2011 6:52:32 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

You are 100% right. Thanks for the confirmation.


314 posted on 11/13/2011 6:53:45 PM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: restornu

So you are trying to show us that in the Bible that Christians are called “whore of Babylon”, seriously resty......
I am not sure why you are referencing Beck, he has nothing to do with this discussion.


315 posted on 11/13/2011 7:28:05 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: restornu
Tithing is a covenant between you and the Lord So why do the lds bishops need to know what you are tithing?

Some are not ready to a full tithe and may never be that is their choice. A non statement, because tithing is between you and God.

The Lord helps those who help themselves. Most miss quoted non Biblical versus ever.

Like in life one can improve their state of happiness just how much is one willing to practice and apply the principles to achieved the Blessings! Another example of lds reveling its about the 'stuff' not God.

As I continue reading your post I realized this inquiry is not about understanding just another ploy. Yes, we understand that lds responses are ploys, thanks for pointing that out.

316 posted on 11/13/2011 7:33:13 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis

That is your ploy to be the victim.

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you keep trying to impose your own view and expectations on me...

Those with JOY in their heart and soul are not victims

I have watch this scenario play out over and over for 10 years now and I am so glad I have grown to the point of understanding just let the disagreeable be!

Sunshine In My Soul Today - Mormon Tabernacle Choir
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTMqKSsl7TA


317 posted on 11/13/2011 7:34:03 PM PST by restornu (Love One Another)
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To: svcw

oh just let you be....


318 posted on 11/13/2011 7:38:52 PM PST by restornu (Love One Another)
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To: restornu

?


319 posted on 11/13/2011 8:02:41 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: restornu

My uncle sings with the mormon tabernacle choir......


320 posted on 11/13/2011 8:04:13 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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