Posted on 11/14/2011 2:59:28 PM PST by Bigtigermike
You won’t believe me until you click play but this is much worse than Perry’s brain lock at the debate last week. Perry lost his train of thought; Cain doesn’t have a train at all here, to the point where he needs confirmation from the interviewer of what Obama’s position on Libya actually was.
Eventually he produces some boilerplate about not supporting the opposition until you’re sure who’s in it and of course not making a decision as president until he has all the information, which is a standard Cain fallback talking point whenever he gets in trouble on a question, but the first two minutes or so are pure agony. The board actually took pity on him, I think, by not following up.
And that still only barely qualifies as the worst answer he gave today. Here’s what he told them when asked, predictably enough, about Scott Walker’s righteous crusade against public employee unions:
"On the issue of collective bargaining, Cain said he supported the right of public employees to bargain collectively." But not collective hijacking. What I mean by that, if they have gotten so much for so many years and it’s going to bankrupt the state, I don’t think that’s good. It appears that in some instances, they really don’t care.”…
Cain also appeared to be unclear on the issue of collective bargaining as it involves federal employees. Asked if he thought federal employees should have the ability to bargain collectively, Cain said: “They already have it, don’t they?”
(Excerpt) Read more at hotair.com ...
Yaaaawwwwn. Next post.
Cain has made a lot of gaffes, especially on foreign policy. This will be used against him should he get the nomination. The Dem ads will show clips of him making erroneous statements and say he’s unprepared to be President. I like Cain but I want a winner, and I’m beginning to think Newt may be the guy. Nobody on the stage knows policy as much as him.
It ain't him, babe. No way.
I’m not selling Cain Kool-Aide. I do support Cain. But: if it is the intent to say that Cain was caught on this answer in some kind of fog, I disagree. Watch the thing. He takes his time. He will not be suckered into snap answers on the Libya question. Let’s all go the first sources, please.
It’s real simple, Herman. Is it in our national interest to get involved in Libya? I’d say no. Were we in danger of imminent attack? No. Was there a declaration of war? No.
The republicans have a storehouse full of Obozo’s gaffes.
I watched it, there was no “brain freeze” by Cain.
His point that Obama never investigated the Libyan opposition before supporting them is correct.
At the beginning of the interview, Cain was trying not to get caught in a “gotcha” question by the MSM, that’s why he paused and asked them to state specifically which aspect of Obama’s action in Libya they were asking whether he agreed with.
the video was painful to watch, but he did get the correct answer surmised. Who exactly was the Opposition and should we be supporting them? At the same time how to deal with Ghadaffi? Yes, it’s complicated and complex than just a simple yes or not answer.
Who is your candidate in the race? (This oughta be good.)
I always liked Newt and I am beginning to think that he is the go-to guy. I am worried about how the media butchered him back in the 90s.
LOL! The fear Cain beating their candidate and Obama — so I wouldn’t be surprised at all if they don’t post it over and over and over and....
LOL! The fear Cain beating their candidate and Obama — so I wouldn’t be surprised at all if they don’t post it over and over and over and....
Nothing else withstanding.
Here is what Cain said, minus Allapundit’s spin (who has always been anti-Cain)
His words:
“I would have done a better job of determining who the opposition is. And I’m sure our intelligence people had some of that information. Based upon who made up that opposition… might have caused me to make some different decisions about how we participated. Secondly, no I did not agree with (Moammar) Gadhafi killing his citizens. Absolutely not. I would have supported many of the things that they did to help stop that.”
Cain said the question of America’s involvement in Libya was not a simple yes or no question. “I would have gone about assessing the situation differently. It might have caused us to end up in the same place.”
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On the issue of collective bargaining, Cain said he supported the right of public employees to bargain collectively.
“But not collective hijacking. What I mean by that, if they have gotten so much for so many years and it’s going to bankrupt the state, I don’t think that’s good. It appears that in some instances, they really don’t care.”
http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/cain-backs-collective-bargaining-for-public-employees-l931tg4-133828808.html
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CAIN IS NOT PRO UNION
Herman Cain at the I Stand with Scott Walker rally:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijx6ryJtvII
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijx6ryJtvII
Employee Free Choice Act is really forced unionization
The federal government impedes economic growth by interfering in the employer and employee relationship. While labor unions once provided a representative body to lobby for fair wages and safe working conditions, they now principally serve as a political mechanism for the Left. Forced unionization through the dishonestly named “Employee Free Choice Act,” or “card check,” would drive up the costs of goods & services, cause jobs to be lost and a more powerful system of liberal fundraising to be maintained.
Source: Campaign website, www.hermancain.com/ “Issues” , May 21, 2011
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Card-Check is union intimidation, not free choice
When someone takes the time to actually read the proposed “Card Check” legislation (H.R. 800), you will discover that many of the proponents of this legislation have lied.
Currently, the employees vote directly twice, one of which is the secret ballot, and a third time through their bargaining representatives. Under the proposed rules, the employees would sign a card and then they are totally out of the process from that point on. Proponents think that’s “free choice.”
Proponents have also alleged that employers intimidate employees into not joining a union. That’s ridiculous, because most employers work at trying to keep their workers happy for competitive reasons and because it enhances employee morale. I personally know of many more stories of union intimidation of employees than instances of employer intimidation.
Workers have every right to unionize if they choose to do so, but employers have some rights also. They have the right to simply shut the doors.
Source: Political column, THE New Voice, “Card Check Lies” , Feb 9, 2009
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Union Bosses Unleash On Herman Cain For Targeting Unions’ Sacred Cows
To qualify for zone status under Cain’s plan, a given jurisdiction will have to enact policies the unions consider anathema – such as the elimination of the minimum wage, the provision of school vouchers, or the declaration of a zone as a “right-to-work” area.
Leading figures in organized labor swiftly attacked the Cain proposal.
Teamsters General President Jim Hoffa told Fox News in an emailed statement: “Herman Cain’s ‘Opportunity Zones’ appear to be an opportunity for corporate America to exploit workers and turn the United States into a third-world country.”
http://www.redstate.com/laborunionreport/2011/10/20/union-bosses-unleash-on-herman-cain-for-targeting-unions-sacred-cows/
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Cain stumbles on Libya question (Also, Backs Collective Bargaining for Public Employees)
Mon Nov 14 17:40:10 2011 · 5 of 52
justsaynomore to TitansAFC
Herman Cain at the I Stand with Scott Walker rally:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijx6ryJtvII
________
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijx6ryJtvII
Employee Free Choice Act is really forced unionization
The federal government impedes economic growth by interfering in the employer and employee relationship. While labor unions once provided a representative body to lobby for fair wages and safe working conditions, they now principally serve as a political mechanism for the Left. Forced unionization through the dishonestly named “Employee Free Choice Act,” or “card check,” would drive up the costs of goods & services, cause jobs to be lost and a more powerful system of liberal fundraising to be maintained.
Source: Campaign website, www.hermancain.com/ “Issues” , May 21, 2011
_________
Card-Check is union intimidation, not free choice
When someone takes the time to actually read the proposed “Card Check” legislation (H.R. 800), you will discover that many of the proponents of this legislation have lied.
Currently, the employees vote directly twice, one of which is the secret ballot, and a third time through their bargaining representatives. Under the proposed rules, the employees would sign a card and then they are totally out of the process from that point on. Proponents think that’s “free choice.”
Proponents have also alleged that employers intimidate employees into not joining a union. That’s ridiculous, because most employers work at trying to keep their workers happy for competitive reasons and because it enhances employee morale. I personally know of many more stories of union intimidation of employees than instances of employer intimidation.
Workers have every right to unionize if they choose to do so, but employers have some rights also. They have the right to simply shut the doors.
Source: Political column, THE New Voice, “Card Check Lies” , Feb 9, 2009
__________
Union Bosses Unleash On Herman Cain For Targeting Unions’ Sacred Cows
To qualify for zone status under Cain’s plan, a given jurisdiction will have to enact policies the unions consider anathema – such as the elimination of the minimum wage, the provision of school vouchers, or the declaration of a zone as a “right-to-work” area.
Leading figures in organized labor swiftly attacked the Cain proposal.
Teamsters General President Jim Hoffa told Fox News in an emailed statement: “Herman Cain’s ‘Opportunity Zones’ appear to be an opportunity for corporate America to exploit workers and turn the United States into a third-world country.”
http://www.redstate.com/laborunionreport/2011/10/20/union-bosses-unleash-on-herman-cain-for-targeting-unions-sacred-cows/
Nope. Newt has too much baggage. Forget the personal issues. He supported health mandates, like Obama. He was on the couch with Pelosi...not good for the smartest man in the room. And, he took money from Fannie and Freddie. The Dems will hammer him on this.
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