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Brutal: Cain blanks on Libya, supports collective bargaining for public employee unions
Hotair ^ | Monday November 14, 2011

Posted on 11/14/2011 2:59:28 PM PST by Bigtigermike

You won’t believe me until you click play but this is much worse than Perry’s brain lock at the debate last week. Perry lost his train of thought; Cain doesn’t have a train at all here, to the point where he needs confirmation from the interviewer of what Obama’s position on Libya actually was.

Eventually he produces some boilerplate about not supporting the opposition until you’re sure who’s in it and of course not making a decision as president until he has all the information, which is a standard Cain fallback talking point whenever he gets in trouble on a question, but the first two minutes or so are pure agony. The board actually took pity on him, I think, by not following up.

And that still only barely qualifies as the worst answer he gave today. Here’s what he told them when asked, predictably enough, about Scott Walker’s righteous crusade against public employee unions:

"On the issue of collective bargaining, Cain said he supported the right of public employees to bargain collectively." But not collective hijacking. What I mean by that, if they have gotten so much for so many years and it’s going to bankrupt the state, I don’t think that’s good. It appears that in some instances, they really don’t care.”…

Cain also appeared to be unclear on the issue of collective bargaining as it involves federal employees. Asked if he thought federal employees should have the ability to bargain collectively, Cain said: “They already have it, don’t they?”

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; cain; duplicate; frontrunner; hermancain; liberalsafraid; libya; notreadyforprimetime; trueconservative; wingingit
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To: ejonesie22

This is Hugh and series, and already posted


21 posted on 11/14/2011 3:23:05 PM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: Bigtigermike
"to the point where he needs confirmation from the interviewer of what Obama’s position on Libya actually was"

I didn't know what position or why Obama was in Libya. All his muslim buddies, like Farrakhan, loved Gaddifi. Obama got his orders from elsewhere......Obama was just following the bouncing ball.

All I know is the result in Libya will be Al Queda at the helm. Obama wants an unified Islamic caliphate.......Cain is right.
22 posted on 11/14/2011 3:23:26 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of their Moonbats)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Don’t worry about him being attacked..count on it.


23 posted on 11/14/2011 3:23:36 PM PST by stillafreemind
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To: parksstp

They wanted a newt answer where he explains the twenty different ways to look at the Libyan situation. Do you wish to discuss it historically, do you wish to discuss the oil in Libya, do you wish to discuss what daffys blond daughter looks like. Do you wish to talk about about his all female guards. Maybe you could make that twenty five different ways to discuss the Libyan situation. Etc. Sit down this could take some time.


24 posted on 11/14/2011 3:23:53 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: jobim
Wow, people are eviscerating him both on this post and on Hotair. I saw it four times and honestly cannot see what the big deal is. it looks to me like a sit down conversation where ideas and comments are not framed in 30 second soundbites. Does he have a full grasp of all the issues? Well Romney does and no one wants him. People are quick to judge one's ability to provide the answer that will dovetail with their ideas and emotions. When one doe not get the answer desired. Burn him at the stake! Herman Cain is a citizen politician and he is not as polished and slippery with his mouth like the rest of them are.

People have got to chill!!

25 posted on 11/14/2011 3:25:41 PM PST by bubman
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To: bubman

Six threads on this. The MSM wants to get rid of Cain as soon as possible. *yawn*


26 posted on 11/14/2011 3:27:50 PM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: Bigtigermike

Oh dear, will they stop at nothing? All the Obamabots or Romneybots are not doing America any good with their lies. Here is my take on the media:

We are at war on a different battlefield here!

Obama and his Evil ilk against Christian Conservatives! If Evil can beat us on this turf, they will beat us in 2012! So the biggest battle is going on right now! Will Evil conquer Good?

It is up to us! Let us hope the American voter will win by electing the man who frightens Evil the most!

Vote for the man with the plan who can, the only man who can save the country from eternal rank Evil! Turn back to God! There are more of us than there are of them! And greater is He who is in us that he who is in the world!

Please stand by the man they fear the most, Herman Cain!

Mark Levin is on right now. I wonder if he will mention the results of his GOP poll where Cain lead at 55^%, Gingrich at 41$, and Romney at 4% last night at 6:30 with 23,188 total votes at that point.

Also Gloria Cain is to be on Greta tonight.;


27 posted on 11/14/2011 3:28:11 PM PST by Paperdoll (II like Herman Cain)
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To: Paperdoll

12,188 votes, that is.


28 posted on 11/14/2011 3:29:36 PM PST by Paperdoll (II like Herman Cain)
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To: bubman

He settles on one point re Libya: that Obama didn’t do a thorough job of assessing the situation, especially with regard to the opposition to Khadaffi.
But then at the end of it he is asked if he thought Obama didn’t do a good job of that, he says “I don’t know” if he did or not.


29 posted on 11/14/2011 3:31:44 PM PST by Lady Lucky
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To: Gargantua

>> and that is just way too dangerous for the guy with his finger on the button.

Hyperbole.


30 posted on 11/14/2011 3:33:04 PM PST by Gene Eric (Save a pretzel for the gas jet.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Oh my goodness, that was painful. No way is he qualified for the Presidency, no way.


31 posted on 11/14/2011 3:37:53 PM PST by annieokie
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To: Bigtigermike

HotAir is not exactly a reliable site these days.


32 posted on 11/14/2011 3:38:03 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Until they rip him down.

Prepare for stories about how he told his dying wife that he wanted a divorce -- probably with interviews of the dying wife.

33 posted on 11/14/2011 3:39:35 PM PST by Tribune7 (If you demand perfection you will wind up with leftist Democrats)
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To: Signalman

Newt is not a conservative. He is a big government RINO who just wants it to be more efficient. He thinks global warming is a real crisis, he thinks Dede Scozzafava is a good candidate and he thinks Freddie Mac is a “model organization”. He also liked the individual health mandate.


34 posted on 11/14/2011 3:39:46 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: justsaynomore

Bump


35 posted on 11/14/2011 3:44:22 PM PST by NoLibZone (Sexual Harassment:men touching themselves while wearing only jock straps,gyrating on a parade float)
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To: Bigtigermike

The stuttering at the beginning was bad, but his overall answer on Libya was a good one. The US and Obama didn’t assess the opposition enough and now its abundantly clear there are al Qaeda elements and islamic radicals all over the Libyan opposition. The Libyan new president has said Sharia will be the basis of all law in their country.


36 posted on 11/14/2011 3:48:22 PM PST by bigdirty
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To: Bigtigermike
Jeez Louise! The guy had total brain-lock--far worse than Perry on a far more important topic. At best, the Cain looked like a student who has been cramming to pass an exam and who's brain is suddenly overloaded with all of the information he's been trying to learn to pass--he even said as much when he said ". . . got all this stuff twirlin' around in my head . . ."

Being President isn't like trying to pass a test, you have to have a formulated policy framework already fully developed. As we have seen from Obama, there's no room for on the job training--from ground zero--you have to have a substantial body of working knowledge from day one or you start out too far behind to catch up.

Herman Cain is NOT ready for prime time.
37 posted on 11/14/2011 3:49:11 PM PST by Sudetenland (There can be no freedom without God--What man gives, man can take away.)
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To: stillafreemind

Herman’s my guy. He clearly is upsetting the establishment the most and that’s what we need. Someone really new who will do what it takes.

Haven’t you noticed that it doesn’t matter whether it’s the establishment Republicans or the Dims, the budget cuts never happen and the taxes and spending go up?

We’ve all cut our spending, the states and cities have for the most part cut their spending but the federal guys haven’t. Why? The establishment repubs are in on it too!

Any Republican who is not being attacked with their tripe style attacks is not worthy.

It’s now or never.


38 posted on 11/14/2011 3:49:44 PM PST by Helotes
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To: Gargantua

“I’ve been saying for months that Cain just isn’t presidential mettle. He shoots from the hip when he’s unsure, and that is just way too dangerous for the guy with his finger on the button.”

I totally agree Gargantua. Cain simply isn’t presidential material and it has absolutely NOTHING to do with the recent allegations by female employees. He is just not well versed on almost everything.

He is probably totally surprised that he mustered a following at all and now that he has, he doesn’t know what to do with it since he has no original thoughts other than his “9-9-9.”


39 posted on 11/14/2011 3:51:06 PM PST by varina davis (We grow too soon old and too late smart -- Pennsylvania Dutch adage)
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To: Lady Lucky

Well what else is he supposed to say? Obama punted the libyan file to the french and the outcome of events in Libya are still fluid. I agree with Cain.


40 posted on 11/14/2011 3:51:46 PM PST by bubman
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