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Cain Supports Collective Bargaining for Public Unions?
Townhall ^ | 11-14-2011 | Kate Pavlich

Posted on 11/14/2011 6:58:25 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright

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To: TBBT

I don’t know who you expect to flame you on that point. Most everyone is in agreement with you. I certainly am.


61 posted on 11/14/2011 8:03:59 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

State logic... Get flamed... Just seems to be the way of things...


62 posted on 11/14/2011 8:06:17 PM PST by TBBT
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To: Navy Patriot
The unions representing the postal workers definitely cleared the decks. The folks following on in the 80s and 90s kept them pretty clean of that particular problem.

The SEIU deal is a different kettle of fish.

Laborer's Union let down it's guard and SEIU started winning representational votes. You can tie that to the influence of the insurance company owned by the Tisch family who pretty well took over LUNA. it's analogous to Fidelity Trust's retirement plan salesmen opening up the ranks of so many Main Stream Protestant bodies to homosexuals ~ they pay well, have no dependents and die younger which actually reduces the cost of the retirement plans for "the others" substantially. Think that didn't sell well to churches with declining membership?

You're still going to have Democrats working in the government ~ unless you want to start stripping them of their civil liberties (which probably ought to be done in many cases just for general principles).

I have no doubt that there are still Commies in the government who are ready to step out and organize Communist led unions and they are waiting for the time to do that.

We also have those who are in the Conservative Movement who want us to believe that we will do well by eradicating unionism among federal employees.

They'd rather do that than privatize government agencies.

63 posted on 11/14/2011 8:07:16 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

>> We also have those who are in the Conservative Movement who want us to believe that we will do well by eradicating unionism among federal employees.

They’d rather do that than privatize government agencies. >>

Uh no, most conservatives would be in favor of both remedies. The two are not mutually exclusive by any means. They would both be a huge improvement over the status quo.


64 posted on 11/14/2011 8:09:59 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
I'm sure you called in begging for a refund of all your postage on your campaign literature after you lost.

DOES NOT HAPPEN, but your's is a special class of human.

65 posted on 11/14/2011 8:10:36 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

>> I’m sure you called in begging for a refund of all your postage on your campaign literature after you lost. DOES NOT HAPPEN, but your’s is a special class of human. >>

WTF does that mean?
No wait. Never mind. I don’t waste my time with government union members like you.


66 posted on 11/14/2011 8:12:12 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Most Consevatives find federal government emplyee unionization way at the bottom of the list of concerns.

You should focus on local and state unionization ~ that's where the big problems with the marching morons and Commie agitation has been.

Why don't you take care of places where there's a problem FIRST.

67 posted on 11/14/2011 8:12:15 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Never was a member. Just worked there telling them what to do.


68 posted on 11/14/2011 8:13:01 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Fact is muahiyah is delusional...she is against unions except the one she belonged to...how convenient!!
69 posted on 11/14/2011 8:14:06 PM PST by ontap
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To: muawiyah

>> You should focus on local and state unionization ~ that’s where the big problems with the marching morons and Commie agitation has been. >>

I am against ALL public sector unions — yes, that’s PUBLIC SECTOR which means FEDERAL, STATE AND LOCAL. And ALL of them are a Federal issue because the STIM BILL bailed out state and local unions!!

And as the moderator (see my tag line) I asked all the candidates about this issue 8 days ago in fact, and I tied the state and local unions to Federal stim funds as a way to make it pertinent to the Presidential election, and all but one were expressly AGAINST ALL PUBLIC SECTOR UNIONS.

And the question, if I do say so, was brilliantly crafted.


70 posted on 11/14/2011 8:14:39 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: ontap

I also think she’s deep into the sauce tonight. Her commie argument was simply beyond delusional. It has to have been chemically powered to boot.


71 posted on 11/14/2011 8:16:46 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: ontap
The biggest group of federal unions represent postal workers and include a supervisors' association and a postmasters' association. APWU and NALC simply have not been known for anything outside of your normal AFL-CIO sort of union process.

They don't have the right to strike and haven't.

72 posted on 11/14/2011 8:16:50 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: ontap

You struck first.


73 posted on 11/14/2011 8:19:01 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

You started the personal attacks by calling him ignorant and an Obama supporter. Looks like you can dish it out but not take similar jabs in return. JMO.


74 posted on 11/14/2011 8:22:30 PM PST by pogo101
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To: C. Edmund Wright
People with an insufficient understanding of American history (like Obama) always imagine they brilliantly craft everything.

I have yet to see anything of the kind out of you.

75 posted on 11/14/2011 8:22:30 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: pogo101

You didn’t read everything did you? Try again.


76 posted on 11/14/2011 8:23:28 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: TBBT

Have you watched it yet?


77 posted on 11/14/2011 8:27:49 PM PST by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
It reminds me that Ronald Reagan cleaned Commies out of the Screen Actors Guild and brought an end to the USSR.

That escaped your attention I am sure.

How old are you?

78 posted on 11/14/2011 8:30:02 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

I’m not 100% sure of the dates or details, since my parents were rather close-mouthed on the subject, but sometime prior to 1942, my father, who was a very low-level Federal employee, was strongly advised by someone with official status to lose an entire group of acquaintances who were (or were suspected of being) communists. He was working in DC and shortly thereafter transferred to the Midwest.

So, *something* did go down back then. I also remember being told that the entire family could be subject to Pinkerton investigations, at random, every few years. I was counseled before going to college (1961) to never sign any membership list of any organization.


79 posted on 11/14/2011 8:30:38 PM PST by reformedliberal
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To: muawiyah

http://www.nrtw.org/en/d/big_labor_special_privileges.htm


80 posted on 11/14/2011 8:31:59 PM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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