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80 is the new 65 when it comes to retirement, survey says
Reuters ^ | Karin Matz

Posted on 11/16/2011 7:45:49 PM PST by newzjunkey

When it comes to retirement, many middle class Americans said 80 is the new 65 and plan to delay retirement because of worries over money, according to a new survey.

Wells Fargo bank asked 1,500 Americans who earned between $25,000 and $99,999 and ranged in age from 20 into their 70s questions about retirement, savings and Social Security for its seventh annual retirement survey... On average, Americans have saved only seven percent of their desired retirement nest egg, with a median of $25,000 saved versus a median retirement goal of $350,000...

"We did find a bright spot among middle class Americans - more than three quarters do not want to retire with mortgage debt..."

(Excerpt) Read more at ca.news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: mortgages; retirement; savings
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To: rbg81
Anyone who imagines they can retire with $25K in the bank is delusional.

Anyone who imagines they can retire with $250K in the bank is delusional.

21 posted on 11/16/2011 8:10:54 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Graybeard58
Aw those never pay! ☺
22 posted on 11/16/2011 8:11:08 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Graybeard58

Is that you Joe?


23 posted on 11/16/2011 8:11:36 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: dragnet2
Retire at 80 and die one day later...

Well, that's right. It used to be you retired at 65 then dropped dead the next day. Still happens. Death is sort of a rising tide when you start to notice it.

24 posted on 11/16/2011 8:12:12 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: Graybeard58

Curious: Do you think your money will hold out if you are lucky enough to live into your 90s?

That’s what I always worry about. Plus, I just bought a new house!


25 posted on 11/16/2011 8:14:32 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: BunnySlippers

You are probably very right.

But many people will retire with less than 500K in savings, SS and a pension.

Of course SS and pensions may be taken away, and they have designs on 401ks and IRA’s.

Even cash is not safe today.


26 posted on 11/16/2011 8:15:48 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Sooth2222
You're comparing a retirement nest egg to net worth.
27 posted on 11/16/2011 8:16:01 PM PST by Ken H (They are running out of other people's money. )
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To: mylife
Even cash is not safe today.

So very, very true.

I never trusted the government ... even before I knew I was a Conservative. I plan to build a fortress ... if I'm lucky.

28 posted on 11/16/2011 8:19:02 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: BunnySlippers
Good for you. I can supply guns if you need them ☺
29 posted on 11/16/2011 8:19:54 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: dr_lew

New SS benefit changes.

You can now apply for Social Security after going into dementia, on or after your 3rd stroke, or after your 80th birthday, which ever comes first.


30 posted on 11/16/2011 8:20:56 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

There is no doubt that proposals to that effect are being drafted at this very moment.

Obamacare: “the red pills make you scream”


31 posted on 11/16/2011 8:23:55 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

“I retired at 62 and signed up for reduced SS.

I would recommend signing up as early as you can. I have no doubt some kind of test will be made for new retirees at some point...”

Agree...applied last week (@ 63).


32 posted on 11/16/2011 8:23:57 PM PST by Magic Fingers
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To: BunnySlippers
I plan to build a fortress ... if I'm lucky.

I got my spot all picked out.


33 posted on 11/16/2011 8:24:53 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: mylife

Haha. Have mine. But my last contractor stole all my ammunition ‘i am sure.

Luckily, I have a good gun shop in my new neighborhood.


34 posted on 11/16/2011 8:30:49 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: BunnySlippers

Fair enough.


35 posted on 11/16/2011 8:35:51 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: dragnet2

So far only 2 male members of my family made it to age 80 and not beyond. Not interested in working fulltime beyond age 65 if I can help it.


36 posted on 11/16/2011 8:37:55 PM PST by tflabo (Restore the Republic)
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To: newzjunkey

We do what we can do regarding retirement because we can do it. I retired at 57, worked off and on for other companies in the industry because I wanted to do so and because they wanted my experience. During that part of my retirement I managed a plant with 150 employees for a couple years.

We now live in a 6500 sq ft home (bought 9 years ago) on 5 1/2 acres (with horses), recently appraised at $650,000...we have no mortgage payment and no credit card debt, and we have an annual retirement income in excess of $50,000.

We do what we want when we want to do it. We also help others in various ways, including financial. And I consult with people on alternative health care matters. I am only 4 years away from that 80 mark, and have no intention of slowing down. Also have no intention of working for other people. We like retirement, and one thing we do not do is watch TV - our choice is no TV connectivity in our home.

God is good, and we thank Him for providing for us.


37 posted on 11/16/2011 8:38:25 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: newzjunkey

Gotta work longer to support the bums, deadbeats, and parasites who comprise the Democrat party “base”.


38 posted on 11/16/2011 8:38:51 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: newzjunkey

This is what happens to a nation that abandons the biblical model for retirement.

No surprise as many predicted that we would come to this point.


39 posted on 11/16/2011 8:41:58 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: newzjunkey

you know, the desk sitters and that type can work to 100 for all I care.....when you do actually hard, difficult and emotionally and physically taxing work, you can’t work til 80...


40 posted on 11/16/2011 8:42:26 PM PST by cherry
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