[Mariner]

"These deaths are the direct result of allowing enviro-socialism to replace the 10,000+ year old historical management of the land by man."

Nonsense.

You should go to Reno and look at it.

I'm surprised the fire had enough fuel to stay lit.

There's nothing for man to manage except scrub...and if you cut all of that you'll have mudslides in the winter/spring.

It's a generally inhospitable place:)

If it wasn't for the original mines, nobody would have stopped there in their western travels 150yrs ago.

No offense to the Reno residents, but that's one ugly town. And, the wind never stops.

[Talisker]

If it wasn't for the original mines, nobody would have stopped there in their western travels 150yrs ago.

Actually, it was a winter staging area before crossing the Sierras. If you could make it to Reno before the winter set in, you were safe. Fatten up over winter get an early start the next year, and you'd make it over the mountains okay. In those days, crossing the Sierras was dangerous as hell, and many people lost their lives thinking, "how bad can it be, we already crossed the Rockies and the desert, let's push on to California." Then the snow would come...

[Flycatcher]

And, the wind never stops.

It did once.

And everyone fell down.

[Confab]

What an absolutely ignorant statement.

[Irish Queen]

Greetings from a former Californian. Sweet Hubby and I chose Northern Nevada for our retirement home. We sold our San Luis Obispo house on three acres to our oldest son ten years ago, and sold mt mother's homes in Palm Springs (gated community) and Ojai(three stories with elevator) this fall. Sadly many areas of California have become overcrowded, crime ridden; with perpetually gray-brown skies. We live about fifty minutes from Reno and Carson City and fifteen minutes from Virginia City. Wild horses are frequent visitors to our place. We have great human neighbors too. It is the custom to wave and/or honk while passing people or vehicles. Except during stormy weather our skies are a deep brilliant blue. We enjoy four season weather, with lots of opportunities for fishing, skiing, and camping. I could easily afford to live anywhere in California but I chose to live here. But I'm sure that where you live in California is perfect for you. My sister and brother-in-law have home in gated communities in Arrowhead and Palm Springs. I'm sure she considers my husband and I a bit crazy for nor craving a 4,000 square foot+ house on a lake, or a 3.000 square foot + house on a golf course ideal.