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To: CharlesWayneCT

If you watched the video, Cain was discussing the issue of rape, as to whether a woman raped should have to raise a child or to give it up for adoption So yes, in this case, the statement is a lie. Cain is prolife.


59 posted on 11/22/2011 8:40:15 PM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: BenKenobi

I’m sorry. First, if you watch the video, you will see that Cain wasn’t sure what he was answering, or why. The interviewer, trying to avoid using certain words, muddied up the question by using the term “raise up” instead of “give birth to” or “abort” — if you listen to interviews about this subject, the reporters rarely use words that suggest you are supposed to kill the child, because people react negatively to that concept. SO they often phrase the question to sound like it’s about the mother.

Cain later explained what he meant, and it had nothing to do with adoption. He didn’t take the “raise up” to mean adoption. He saw that Piers had tried to make it personal, but not that it was a change in subject. Cain gave a different reason for why he answered the way he did; eventually he said he’d make abortion illegal, but that he couldn’t keep a family from deciding to break the law and abort the child anyway.

It was clearly not about adoption. His answer never made sense in those terms. Nobody has ever argued that we would force women to RAISE their children. Cain said his answer wasn’t what most people would say — clearly since virtually ALL people would say a woman doesn’t have to raise a kid, if his answer was about adoption it wouldn’t make sense for him to say it wasn’t a normal answer.

Further, there’s no controversy about that, and nobody in the pro-life movement would ever trivially answer that question. If a pro-life person was actually asked “so you would make a woman RAISE a child conceived by rape or incest”, the universal answer is “what are you talking about — the abortion issue is NOT about forcing a woman to raise a child; we strongly support adoption as a viable alternative for those women who are pregnant but decide they do not want to raise their child”.

Since Cain never even MENTIONED the word adoption, it was clear he was never talking about it. That was just an excuse that some Cain supporters floated because they couldn’t figure out why Cain answered the way he did. But once Cain explained his answer, it made no sense for his supporters to continue to pretend he was talking about adoption — he was talking about families breaking the law (if you believe Cain).


61 posted on 11/23/2011 7:09:18 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: BenKenobi

Cain’s stand against abortion is interesting. He’s against it with no exceptions. However, when presented with a real life scenario about what to do about a baby born after a rape, he got fuzzy and said it would be a family decision.

Actually his no prisoners stand is a detriment. Rick Perry is sterling on pro-life but he grants the usual 3 exceptions, rape, incest and mother’s health.

I’ll tell you why this is better.

There was an election recently in Mississippi for a bill they called the Personhood bill. It stated that every embryo was a Person and could not be killed under any circumstances.

The bill, which was expected to pass because of the strong pro-life feeling of the majority, failed and failed horribly. It was too strong. To be able to pass a pro-life bill, you need the exceptions or people won’t buy it.


76 posted on 11/26/2011 7:17:30 AM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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