[DoughtyOne]

Your answer is well thought out and appreciate your honesty in the way you answered this.  Thank you. 

Over the years I have noted that there was always a group out there that saw modern society as having reached it's current zenith by evil means.  I agree that man is sinful, but I also believe that many people try to do what is right by their fellow man.  So while I don't think it's appropriate to try to avoid the truth of some things that have taken place, I still think it is vital that we see these things in context, consider the knowledge of the day when things took place and other factors, not just the evil intent of man.  Another-words, what is actual truth?

Trying to achieve decent goals, can have devistating negative impact.  Introducing European disease to people that couldn't deal with it, was not an evil act.  If you look at the Western understanding of disease (and particularly communicable disease), in the day, it's startling to see how stupidly we protected ourselves in that era.

I also find it rather interesting that liberal dogma necessitates man's psychological need to invent god.  It doesn't dwell on or recognize man's psychological need to re-evaluate self, and often in a very unfavorable light.  We attribute evil intent sometimes wisely, and often-times not.  We see our forefathers as evil for doing certain things we do today, but don't see it as evil today.

We see a constant drumb-beat of negativity about slavery in the day and how we should be held accountable now, but hear nothing at all about slavery that takes place in Africa today.  The United States only accounted for a small percentage of the global slavery that took place in the era of slavery, but it is the only place in the world where the black populace is still trying to blame it's total failings on slavery.

There is only complexity of this issue because of man’s lack of ability to love others...

Man does not have an inability to love others.  U.S. citizens and corporations paid out $290 billion dollars in charitable giving in 2010.  LINK  Our government pays out approaching half a trillion dollars per year to U. S. citizens who supposedly need help, even if they don't.  We error on the side of handing out freebies in excess, simply so we won't be seen as uncaring.

We donate at church, at work, to the Salvation Army, to a myriad of concerns too numerous to mention.  We donate to local schools.  We donate on a whim if a neighbor or someone at work is going though a rough time.  If the school athletic team needs new equipment, we pitch in.  If the local symphony has a need, we pitch in.  If a homeless shelter needs help, we volunteer our time.

We do these things because we have an inherent drive to help others.  Please don't forget this in your haste to list the evils of man.  There is that too, but man is also a noble being.

...and respect the fact that the entire earth was open for everyone to live wherever one chooses too live.

As far back as recorded history goes, man has been known to be posessive and protective of territory.  Whether it be for hunting grounds, a safety parimiter, a collective area governed by the same sets of rules, man has found it necessary to be protective of his immediate environment.  If you have 200 people to feed and you have found a bountiful supply to keep them alive, is it reasoned to think you should allow another group to come in and start culling the herd so it won't meet your own community's needs?  These types of situations are bound to crop up.  It is not evidence of evil.  It is evidence of self-preservation.  Man's number one priority is self-preservation.  It is not evil.  The earth was never entirely wide open for anyone to inhabit, post sin.

It is only complex now because we have allowed greed to rule and we are now at a phase to protect the material things we have from others.

It would seem to me, that taken to it's full conclusion, you would state that man should have no worldly posessions.  Are we wrong to have civilization that is advanced technologically?  Is it wrong to have developed music, technology, and the sciences to the degree we have?  Should we have remained living in mud huts and dying early in life due to common mortal diseases we have found cures for?

Should we have shunned cars, airplanes, ships, telephones, television, the sciences, even though those things expanded our horizons?  If your child needs health care, are they the one we should refuse to use technology on?  Should we not send them to the hospital quickly, so they can be saved?  Should they dye at 32 because we don't know how to perform an appendectomy?  Where do we draw this sort of line?

Is it wrong for us to try to protect our homeland and our civilization?   Should we allow other cultures to swamp us, take what we have, and govern us as they see fit?

We are at the point were politics and laws can not solve this anywhere.

Not really, we aren't.  We are at the point where we have lost the will to live by civilized laws.  It doesn't have to be that way, and we are verging on total anarchy, due to the lack of a governing spine, but it doesn't have to be that way, and nobody in the end will benefit from the meltdown that is taking place.  Even those who are ushering it in, will pay a heavy toll under any replacement society.

I Pray for an event from God to help us, mankind has no answer.

Mankind has the same answer that served us well for over 200 years.  It wasn't perfect, but it was light years better than what lies just ahead.

Satan has an answer too.  And right now, we're following his lead.

Man can choose to return to God, or he can sink back into the primordial muck, anything goes and no law will be seen as good and ultimate anarchy will exist.

If that takes place, it won't take generations to condemn what we have ushered in.  The darkness that will enshroud this old world would make the post apocalyptic zombie movies look tame.

[stfassisi]

Look,dear friend, I was being very vague and a little cynical in my responses. I thought you might have picked up om that.

I guess I need to explain further.

There is goodness in many people ,not just Americans. Many have been brainwashed into thinking that just giving to charities and the other things you mentioned are somehow better than the person who gives a cool glass of water to a thirsty beggar on the street.

It’s not the amount given,it’s the intent of genuine love for others. I believe it was Saint Francis Xavier who said “we should serve the poor as if we are their slaves”

People like Soros give large amounts of money away, but it’s to fit his personal agenda and not for love of others

As for material things and technology... these things are good as long as they don’t become materialism,consumerism and lead us cherish these things and become golden calf’s in our life.

You’re correct when you say that things don’t have to be the way they are right now but the reality is that there is so much divisiveness in the world right now that working towards common good seems unachievable since people don’t even have a clue what authentic common good towards love is and confuse it with socialism ,gay rights,and all the other moral atrocities etc..

St. Clement of Alexandria said the following...

A person does good through love.

His actions are not motivated by desire for personal benefit, so he does not have personal advantage as his aim. But as soon as he has realized the beauty of doing good, he does it with all his energies and in all that he does.

He is not interested in fame, or a good reputation, or a human or divine reward.

The rule of life for a perfect person is to be in the image and likeness of God.

—St. Clement of Alexandria