Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Texas man gets 99 years for cattle rustling
San Antonio Express News ^ | 25 August 2011 | Betsy Blaney

Posted on 11/22/2011 8:11:07 PM PST by Racehorse

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-51 next last
To: Deagle
"I disagreeing with the penalty"

I disagree with the penalty also. 2097 head of cattle should be git a rope time.

21 posted on 11/22/2011 9:04:09 PM PST by matthew fuller (I stand with Leroy!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: matthew fuller

If you put the cattle-rustling perp on a prison ship, would you put him in “Steerage”?

OK, it’s late.


22 posted on 11/22/2011 9:05:39 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: glyptol

Okay, I’ll try once more...

Yes, he was stealing and deserves to be incarcerated.

No, he does not deserve to be in jail for 99 years.

Yes, MF Global folks should be in jail for 99 years. They stole billions - not millions.

No, MF Global folks will go free or serve little or no time.

Yes Justice sucks! If your going to jail people for years, at least it should be based on injury and justice. Do you really think that the MF Global folks that lost billions for their clients are going to be jailed according to those standards?

This has occurred many times for White Collar crimes compared to others. The actual harm is much greater for these White Collar crimes but did you see any length of sentence added? Of course not, only White Collar crimes. When the culprit gets out, he will enjoy millions that he gathered during his spree - with no criminal problems.

Do I really need to make my point any clearer?


23 posted on 11/22/2011 9:10:55 PM PST by Deagle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: matthew fuller

You’re being silly... You should reserve rope for politicians.


24 posted on 11/22/2011 9:12:46 PM PST by Deagle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: glyptol

You’re just being silly now... Either get real and discuss the over-zealous sentence or stop...


25 posted on 11/22/2011 9:14:46 PM PST by Deagle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Deagle

Yes having gotten up at 3:00 in the morning and checked on the cows and the hogs when it’s cold you just don’t like to be robbed.

You are tired and cold and have no interest, and a thief is still a thief.


26 posted on 11/22/2011 9:20:08 PM PST by glyptol
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: glyptol

Okay...have a good one (hope you don’t get robbed)...


27 posted on 11/22/2011 9:21:09 PM PST by Deagle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Deagle
The man was stealing someone's livelihood.

Roughly $1200.00 per critter currently, and each one has the potential to make more next year.

Severe would be dragging him to death behind a horse.

Hanging is traditional.

The guy got off light.

28 posted on 11/22/2011 9:27:18 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Smokin' Joe

Yes, you are also looking at the sentence as deserved instead of looking at the whole picture...

Heck, and I’m from Texas - but as least I see the difference in punishments doled out by our so called justice department.

Seems that most of you just want revenge without looking at the overall picture or how similar thefts are penalized for others.

That’s okay, have at it... It will not change my mind. I will continue to believe that the White Collar crimes that are being committed daily are far worse than this and should be penalized accordingly.

Hey, the man loved cattle...

(a joke you turkeys)


29 posted on 11/22/2011 9:32:38 PM PST by Deagle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: Deagle

Can we agree the rustler deserves 99 years as long as corzine gets 900?


30 posted on 11/22/2011 9:38:09 PM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: Deagle

You are correct. I think the punishment does not fit the crime. However if you show up on my property in the middle of the night I have to assume you are not there to sell me cookies. I know where I live and you know where you live.
There have been many worse thefts recently in the business world costing billions.
Throw these guys in jail and I’ll turn the key.
I guess he didn’t have the right political connections.


31 posted on 11/22/2011 9:38:28 PM PST by glyptol
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: reed13k

No, actually, I would agree that Corzine should get the 99 years - the rustler about 20 would be fine...(a bit harsh I know but it is not like he killed someone). Corzine steals a billion or so and the rustler steal 200,000. Seems to be just a bit of difference.


32 posted on 11/22/2011 9:44:15 PM PST by Deagle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: Beowulf9

“But one cannot condone theft. However, pretty stiff sentence, Texas livin up to its rep.”

Let’s send Jon Corzine to Texas. Maybe they’ll give him 99 years for stealing the millions from MF Global.


33 posted on 11/22/2011 9:51:42 PM PST by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: Deagle

Hmm I don’t think either should see outside a cell again but then I’m for the death penalty for all murders that aren’t self defense or accidents


34 posted on 11/22/2011 9:51:53 PM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: reed13k

Well, seems most here think that a cattle thief should be either hanged or worse.

I will simply depart since my arguments are being met by deaf ears.


35 posted on 11/22/2011 9:55:43 PM PST by Deagle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: Deagle
That’s okay, have at it... It will not change my mind. I will continue to believe that the White Collar crimes that are being committed daily are far worse than this and should be penalized accordingly.

See the first in my list for the likes of them. A lifetime of hard labor would not be enough.

Frankly, what I think would be appropriate for those who steal from the mouths of millions (yes, Virginia, inflation resulting from large-scale white-collar crime takes the food from the mouths of millions) would likely be classified as 'cruel and unusual punishment', even though it has its roots in Western Civilization and would provide a definite disincentive to those pondering such a career move.

If that sounds harsh, so be it. Nambypambyland solutions haven't been working so well, and 'frontier justice' kept the American West a lot less 'wild' than Hollywood or TV would have one believe.

Those robbing millions of billions or trillions of dollars down to those who simply steal grandma's home from her with some fancy paperwork might not be so earnest in their pursuits if they actually thought they might physically suffer as a result.

For now, they are feeling safely insulated from any repercussions.Please note, this isn't our of vengeance. It is the cold calculus of deterrence, dispassionately rendered, not hot-blooded retaliation.

36 posted on 11/22/2011 9:57:20 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: Deagle
Testimony at Curry's trial revealed he had stolen 2,097 head of cattle worth nearly $1 million since 2007, Heatly said.

The $200,000 was since 2009. Go back another two years and his total is close to a million. Anyone stealing a million bucks deserved 99 years.

Rustling is a big problem for ranchers these days. You can't just lock the herd up at night and set the burglar alarm. Rustlers are thieves, nothing more. They deserve no more pity than the thug who robs a liquor store.
37 posted on 11/22/2011 10:05:15 PM PST by goldfinch
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: goldfinch

I give them no pity at all!


38 posted on 11/22/2011 10:07:21 PM PST by Deagle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: Deagle

I don’t think he should be hung but he should be jailed for a long time and I think the punishments haven’t fit the crime for way too long.


39 posted on 11/22/2011 10:15:49 PM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: Racehorse

In the good old days, when the rangers caught him they would of just found a nice tree and saved the county and state a lot of money on court costs and lawyer fees. But then of course lawyers make laws to enrich lawyers so that aint legal anymore.


40 posted on 11/22/2011 10:58:17 PM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-51 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson