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Medvedev: Russia may target missile defense sites
ap ^ | 11-23-2011

Posted on 11/23/2011 6:00:15 AM PST by cutty

President Dmitry Medvedev says Russia will aim its missiles at the U.S. missile defense sites in Europe if Washington fails to address Russian concerns on its missile defense plans.

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He also said ...that Moscow may opt out of the New Start arms control deal

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: iran; missledefense; reset; russia; start

1 posted on 11/23/2011 6:00:16 AM PST by cutty
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To: cutty

All the more reason to build and deploy the missile shield.


2 posted on 11/23/2011 6:06:17 AM PST by TSgt ("Romney" means "rino cult" in Kenyan)
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To: cutty

Cold War Redux.

Here we go again...


3 posted on 11/23/2011 6:16:20 AM PST by moovova (Report my sarcastic, fear-mongering, hate-filled lies to www.AttackWatch.com by clicking HERE.)
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To: cutty

You mean Obama hasn’t given Dmitri the keys to the missile defense sites yet? Slacker!


4 posted on 11/23/2011 6:18:29 AM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. We have ideas-the Dems only have ideology.)
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To: cutty
And our answer? We have Barry to extend the hand of friendship weakness to Medvedev.




5 posted on 11/23/2011 6:20:23 AM PST by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: TSgt
Weren't we told that “missile Defense” ie: “Star Wars” was an expensive pipe dream that could never be implemented.

Another in the long line of American Leftists lies designed to destabilize, undermine and otherwise weaken the USA.

6 posted on 11/23/2011 6:21:44 AM PST by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Ping.


7 posted on 11/23/2011 6:22:25 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: moovova
"Cold War Redux."

Suddenly that "Reset" button makes sense....

8 posted on 11/23/2011 6:28:41 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: TigersEye

Ping.


9 posted on 11/23/2011 6:32:20 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: All

I remember it as clear as if it had happened yesterday...

In 1991, I was a young Corporal of Marines, stationed in the Marine Detachment on a US Navy carrier. We had a CIS DD (Gen Vinigrodov(SP)) from the Black Sea Fleet working with our battle group. One evening leaning in over the railing, watching the DD sail 1/4 mile off our port side, I made the comment to a crusty old Marine Gunnery Sgt. standing beside me, “Gunny, I never thought I’d see the day when the Russians worked along side us and were our friends.”

He took a drag off his cigarette, and without even looking at me matter of factly said, “Corporal, make no mistake about it, the Russians are still the Soviets, they aren’t our friends, and they never will be.” I was a little taken aback; it got me thinking, though.

That simple statement changed the way I viewed the world, and the United State’s place in it more than any other thing I’d heard or read, before or since. I am not just talking vi-a-vei the Soviets, either. It’s news articles like this one, and the last 20 years of world history that validate that crusty Gunny everyday.

Would that our leaders, all of them, not just the brain dead liberals, heed more closely the words of that man, our country, and world, would be a much safer and better place.


10 posted on 11/23/2011 6:34:53 AM PST by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: cutty

I hope the russians bail out of the last so called arms control treaty, and forego further negotiations.


11 posted on 11/23/2011 6:34:59 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: FourPeas
...hand of friendship... = wrist of limpness
12 posted on 11/23/2011 6:44:40 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Rights begin where power ends!)
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To: Joe 6-pack
Suddenly that "Reset" button makes sense....

I was a little young to understand the Cuban Missle Crisis, but I grew up with the fears of "mutual assured destruction" and "global annihilation" brought on by the Cold War.

Reading that article this morning gave me a sense of deja vu.

13 posted on 11/23/2011 6:57:28 AM PST by moovova (Report my sarcastic, fear-mongering, hate-filled lies to www.AttackWatch.com by clicking HERE.)
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To: cutty

Madness


14 posted on 11/23/2011 7:07:25 AM PST by SQUID
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To: cutty
The Soviets wanted us to abandon SDI at Rekyavik because they knew we could achieve it. The Russian population is dwindling. Their conventional forces and military doctorine are outclassed. Conflicts since the Yom Kippur war have demonstrated that.

The only thing propping them up militarily is their nuclear weapons. Now that we have effectively achieved SDI, their old guard remnants are very nervous. They know we have the ability to negate their nuclear forces. They also know we have a fellow traveller as CiC.

15 posted on 11/23/2011 7:57:13 AM PST by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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To: cutty

bump....


16 posted on 11/23/2011 8:22:38 AM PST by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: cutty

Oh boy...are we having fun yet?


17 posted on 11/23/2011 8:23:36 AM PST by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: moovova

It will be by the Grace of God...a cold war.


18 posted on 11/23/2011 8:25:12 AM PST by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: cutty

Oooh, we’re so scared. Russia’s ICBM’s are so antiquated it takes 24 hours to spin them up and probably half of them will blow up in the silos. The UN inspectors are terrified of going into those silos to inspect them. They have some short range stuff that could hit Europe. Their nuclear subs are so bad we track them by the radioactive trail they leave. There is a reason Russia is not at war with anybody. They can’t afford it and they don’t have the weaponry. They are full of crapola and sadly we have a President who is easily bluffed. We should have already put that missile shield up in Poland.


19 posted on 11/23/2011 8:32:28 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

The topal missle is very dangerous and mobile. We need to be vigilant and never underestimate any opponent or potential threat IE china or russia.


20 posted on 11/23/2011 8:38:43 AM PST by MARKUSPRIME
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To: cutty

The Russians should be a little more concerned about the overflow of Chinese entering Siberia as well as the influx from the Religion of Peace into greater Russia.


21 posted on 11/23/2011 9:00:05 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Russia’s ICBM’s are so antiquated...

Russia is deploying a new series of nuclear tipped missiles with warheads designed with the aid of US supercomputers. The new Russian SS-X-27 missile is being moved directly into deployment with an advanced 550 kiloton nuclear warhead made by the Arzamas-16 nuclear design bureau.

The original version of the TOPOL - mod 1 version - is designated the SS-25. This mobile missile is quite capable and can reach the US with a variety of weapons packages, including nuclear warheads of Russian design...

Defense officials, however, are worried that the new deployment of a highly accurate, MARV warhead missile only highlights the weakness of aging US strategic systems... The maneuvering warhead and extreme accuracy indicates the silo based SS-27s are "first strike" weapons intended to penetrate US defensive missiles which may be deployed around strategic land based - nuclear missiles. It can be fired from mobile missile launchers.

The current US force consists solely of 450 Minuteman-III missiles, designed in 1970. They are silo based. So, the antiquated 2011 missile from Russia is to be laughed at because we have 42 year old models that are much more modern.

Pride goes before a fall.

22 posted on 11/23/2011 9:22:46 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Turbo Pig
“Corporal, make no mistake about it, the Russians are still the Soviets, they aren’t our friends, and they never will be.”

I think your gunny was exactly right. The Russian FSB is essentially the same as the old KGB, and Putin is still an old commie.

We will come to blows again with Russia.

23 posted on 11/23/2011 9:38:08 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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To: Turbo Pig

I am a former Cold War submariner, but I have traveled in Russia, and have Russian friends. Believe me when I say that the last thing the Russian people want is war with us. It would be as devastating to them as it would be to us. Their pride was wounded when the Soviet Union fell, and they are just flexing their national pride.


24 posted on 11/23/2011 10:12:24 AM PST by TexConfederate1861 (Surrender means that the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy.)
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To: American in Israel

Our Polaris and Trident systems are very effective tools of persuasion. The Russians are not going to start a war with the United States or NATO. They have no infrastructure, no money to fight a war and don’t have the depth of weapons or technology that we do. They are a third world country. They would be crushed. The Russians are not suicidal. They are very street smart and they use the tantrum, bully technique to get what they want. The Russians want to be a player in the world stage and they know that they cannot really achieve that unless Europe and the US let them in the game. Russia is not a threat to us.


25 posted on 11/23/2011 10:28:44 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: TexConfederate1861

That’s fine; when it comes down to it, though, they (as in the government, not necessarily the work a day Russian) are going to do what they feel is best for them, not for us. Same goes for neighbors and “allies” as well as those who practice “religions”, here and abroad, that are antithetical to the American way of life.

As I said, the world would be a much safer and better place if our leaders remembered that.


26 posted on 11/23/2011 10:40:49 AM PST by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Russia is not a threat to us.

I disagree, hope your right. Next few years will tell.

27 posted on 11/23/2011 11:07:48 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: American in Israel
“The current US force consists solely of 450 Minuteman-III missiles, designed in 1970. They are silo based.”

Um, you forgot about our submarine-based ballistic-missile force, which the Russians have great difficulty tracking (Hollywood notwithstanding). That's what keeps the Russian strategic defense command up at night.

28 posted on 11/23/2011 12:12:58 PM PST by riverdawg
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To: Turbo Pig

I am not saying we shouldn’t be vigilant, but Russia cannot afford a war. Their fleet is rusting away, because they can’t afford to upkeep it. They may posture, but they are unlikely to do anything. Now CHINA on the otherhand.....


29 posted on 11/23/2011 1:15:00 PM PST by TexConfederate1861 (Surrender means that the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy.)
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To: Awgie
Weren't we told that “missile Defense” ie: “Star Wars” was an expensive pipe dream that could never be implemented. Yes, Tsgt, we were told that, because it was at least partially true. "Star Wars" called for a system of space-based lasers to shoot down incoming missiles. That was not technologically-feasible in 1984. It's not even technologically-feasible today in 2011. That WAS the epitome of an "expensive pipe dream" as you put it. Just because it came out of Reagan's mouth doesn't automatically mean it was a good idea. Today's anti-ballistic missile shields, like the Arrow systems developed by Israel to defend against Iranian missiles, are ground-based interceptors that use missiles (not lasers) to shoot down other missiles. "Star Wars" would have been a mutli-billion dollar boondoggle and we should all be glad that it was never pursued. The elements of the Strategic Defense Initiative that were feasible were pursued and have evolved into today's workable anti-ballistic missile systems.
30 posted on 11/23/2011 1:45:04 PM PST by ak3647
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To: American in Israel

Well everybody is trying to push Barry around. He’s the weakling from grade school that got his lunch money taken everyday. Wait til we get somebody like Gingrich in the Oval Office and Bolton at State. They will give Medveded a wedgie and you will hear a different tune.

I’m on a thread with a guy who appears to be from that area. He said the Natural Gas megalopoly over there is like a separate state. Half the time you can’t tell whether they are calling the shots or the Russian govt is. I have read that the country is being run by Putin and about 40 billionaire oligarchs. From what I understand if he doesn’t listen to them he might disappear. Vlad swims with the fishes. LOL!!


31 posted on 11/23/2011 1:50:47 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

>>>I think your gunny was exactly right. The Russian FSB is essentially the same as the old KGB, and Putin is still an old commie.

We will come to blows again with Russia.<<<

Agreed... and more important than the Communism element is the Russian element. Cultures have personalitities, just like people, and the Russians have been aggressive expansionists since Ivan the Terrible. The Communism part is just an expression of their Russian culture. And that ain’t going away any time soon, demographic bust or not.


32 posted on 11/23/2011 4:25:04 PM PST by redpoll
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To: redpoll

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Agreed... and more important than the Communism element is the Russian element. Cultures have personalitities, just like people, and the Russians have been aggressive expansionists since Ivan the Terrible. The Communism part is just an expression of their Russian culture. And that ain’t going away any time soon, demographic bust or not.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Russia is not communist by now. They know communism and certainly don’t want to live with it anymore.
Communists are minority in Russian parliament and they are dying off after their traditional voters who are mostly 80 yo cold warriors or former communist elites.

Modern Russia is an oligarchy ruled by corporations and tycoons who bought government to pursue their monopolist agenda.


33 posted on 11/23/2011 9:07:18 PM PST by cunning_fish
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