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To: Zhang Fei

Please link me to where I or Newt Gingrich did not call for enforcement of laws or closing border. I was quite clear that is a key to some self deportation.

I was responding to freeper calls of 100% deportation which is simply never going to happen.

The general public..of which 40% is leftist or near leftist and a media which is 90% lefty willl never sit still while we do that.

We do not have the political power to deport 20 million latinos...if we can get 1/3rd or half then we would be lucky. Even Ike’s vaunted Wetback plan much touted here stumbled when folks started dying in forced deportations...and that was only 100,000 actually arrested and deported...not 20 million.,..and they had not been here 25-40 years in some case

This is a since 1970s years in the making issue, it won’t be solved overnight. And having lived in Miami back when they did actually deport folks frequently, one had a hearing and would sit at Krome Detention or Oakdale Detention in Louisiana or even some at Fort Chaffee AR waiting for process...any idea where we can store 20 million detainees once we recognize who they are?

Sure some will self deport...hopefully a bunch once they realize we have a POTUS who will enforce the INS laws unlike Obama and to some degree BushII...I think any of these candidates will do better than that

A strawman is an argument totally unrelated to the subject.

Mass deportations are the central issue here and my position on the feasibility of that is well known.

Bachmann is the only one calling for that.

The others have aped more or less Newt’s stance but with less detail. That they and left wing media are bashing Newt over his illegals views is hypocritical and has nothjing to do with truth but merely a tool to attack the frontrunner.

though with different goals

If freeper want total deportation then this should be a Bachmann forum instead of Cain.

Bachmann though was savaged by Sarah folks here early on so something tells me for many it’s about politics not immigration


108 posted on 11/25/2011 9:32:48 AM PST by wardaddy (Michelle, Sarah, Perry now Newt over Mitt.....that is how I've seen it and it's where we are)
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To: wardaddy
The others have aped more or less Newt’s stance but with less detail. That they and left wing media are bashing Newt over his illegals views is hypocritical and has nothjing to do with truth but merely a tool to attack the frontrunner.

Newt is being savaged because he is calling for legalization aka amnesty. Mass deportations is a straw man. Not everybody thinks mass deportations is a practical policy. But nobody here wants legalization.

115 posted on 11/25/2011 9:38:10 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: wardaddy
Big on the deception thing, the three conservatives, cain, bachmann and santorium have all called for a border fence, first, and let the states help enforce the laws. When you take the first twenty employers assets, the road south will be full of illegals driving themselves home.
122 posted on 11/25/2011 9:45:50 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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