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6-Year-Old Son [Charged] With a Felony After He Played Doctor With a 5-Year-Old Girl
Reason.com ^ | 11/23/2011 | Jacob Sullum

Posted on 11/25/2011 4:12:47 PM PST by BfloGuy

Last week the parents of a Wisconsin boy sued Grant County District Attorney Lisa Riniker for charging their son with first-degree sexual assault, a Class B felony, after he played "butt doctor" with a 5-year-old girl. He was 6 at the time. When the boy's lawyer tried to have the charge dismissed, Riniker replied: "The legislature could have put an age restriction in the statute if it wanted to. The legislature did no such thing."

According to the complaint (PDF), the girl is "the daughter of a well-known political figure in Grant County," and her brother, who is the same age, also was involved in playing doctor but was not charged. In addition to Riniker, the lawsuit names as defendants retired Grant County Sheriff's Sgt. James Kopp and Jan Moravits, an investigator with Grant County Social Services "whose regional supervisor...is the political figure's wife's sister-in-law"—i.e., the aunt of the alleged victim.

Although the boy, now 7, is too young to be prosecuted or named in a juvenile delinquency petitition, Madison.com reports, county officials are using the felony charge to force his parents into accepting "protection or services" for him. The lawsuit says that once he turns 18, he will be listed as a sex offender.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: assault; cps; doctor; felony; juvenile; play; sexoffender; sexual
*Title edited for length.

This is where we've ended up. The legislature didn't specify ages in the law the DA has chosen, so a 6 year old is now a sex offender. I guess I was too at that age. Playing doctor was a popular, if occasional, pastime among the single-digits set back in the day.

Unfortunately, there is no room for common sense in a society that has decided to live under the rule of laws rather than the rule of law.

1 posted on 11/25/2011 4:12:50 PM PST by BfloGuy
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To: BfloGuy

I’d played doctor when I was a young boy. This one girl I liked-same age-thought that her arm was infected, so strapped her down to a picnic, got my dad’s saw from the garage, and was ready to take it off until she got chicken and started screaming....man she is just lucky that I didn’t know how to operate my old man’s power saw...there would’ve been blood everywhere...


2 posted on 11/25/2011 4:16:30 PM PST by gman992 ("I'm a conservative. I'm just a happy conservative.")
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To: BfloGuy
From the excerpt it looks like selective persecution prosecution.
3 posted on 11/25/2011 4:16:46 PM PST by null and void (This is day 1039 of America's Obamavacation from reality.)
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To: BfloGuy

It’s okay, this little boy will be a sex-offender for the rest of his life, and Sandusky will walk. Bizzaro world, is that Liberty Tree ready for its watering yet or what?


4 posted on 11/25/2011 4:18:01 PM PST by IamCenny
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To: BfloGuy

Wonder if Lisa Riniker played “house.” Little girls would bring out toy tea sets and play wife with some waylayed boy.


5 posted on 11/25/2011 4:20:42 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: IamCenny

“It’s okay, this little boy will be a sex-offender for the rest of his life, and Sandusky will walk”

That was my first thought (fear) also. What a twisted world we’re in.


6 posted on 11/25/2011 4:20:42 PM PST by MichaelCorleone (Stop feeding the beast; if they don't say "Merry Christmas", don't buy.)
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To: BfloGuy

Played “Doctor” a couple times when I was about 6. Noticed the differences, but didn’t think much about them. Then,,,,, when I was 10 or 11, I noticed Betty Page in my Dad’s “Photo Magazines,” And thought,,, “Oh! Girls!”


7 posted on 11/25/2011 4:22:23 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: BfloGuy

The boy’s lawyer should demand the female be prosecuted for seducing the poor little tyke. If the DA wants to play games with the law, then all the pieces need to be in play.


8 posted on 11/25/2011 4:26:03 PM PST by Segovia
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To: BfloGuy
It's the politically correct world we have created. In california someone is trying to pass a law that would mandate anyone that sees child sex abuse going on to report it to law enforcement. I don't believe it has an age limit either. I read somewhere that a little girl who kissed a little boy is being investigated as a potential criminal.

You are almost forced to report anything that might be considered sexual to protect yourself. Not to mention all of the false reports that might be reported by people seeking revenge.

What is this world coming to?

9 posted on 11/25/2011 4:31:40 PM PST by oldbrowser (There is a shakeup coming to Washington, one way or another.)
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To: BfloGuy
"charging their son with first-degree sexual assault, a Class B felony, after he played "butt doctor" with a 5-year-old girl."

Hell, I've gotten that same treatment from various bosses over the years. This mean I can sue 'em?

10 posted on 11/25/2011 4:32:59 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: BfloGuy
I'm guilty.

First played doctor 55 years ago.

Still doing it today.

11 posted on 11/25/2011 4:34:45 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: BfloGuy

The girl’s brother also played “doctor” with her . . . but he doesn’t get charged with anything. Hmm, politicians’ bias maybe??


12 posted on 11/25/2011 4:36:18 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: BfloGuy

The key to this whole mess is “well known political figure.”

Politically motivated prosecution.


13 posted on 11/25/2011 4:36:45 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: BfloGuy

And let me guess, there isn’t any way in the Wis. constitution for Walker to just pardon the kid, which he’d doubtless do in a Madison minute, while telling that prosecutor just how stupid she was.


14 posted on 11/25/2011 4:37:24 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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To: BfloGuy
Pass enough laws, and everybody is a criminal.
15 posted on 11/25/2011 4:41:08 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The very idea of a community organizer is to stir up a mob for some political purpose." Ann Coulter)
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To: BfloGuy

5 years old? Give me a break!

What can they expect— IF they manage to survive being born the commie’s are teaching them about ‘sex’ and how to use condoms and queer is ok.

It’s not the kids fault.
It’s the parents fault and the TYPE of schooling they get. IMO


16 posted on 11/25/2011 5:02:18 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (WE ARE AMERICA! DONATE TO FR MORE!)
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To: gman992

You were just trying to help...as a friend. Your instincts were good if a little naive, but that’s what youth is.


17 posted on 11/25/2011 5:07:43 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: BfloGuy

We loved playing doctor. I wasn’t happy about the leach treatments though. Those older brothers...they love to torture!!


18 posted on 11/25/2011 5:31:12 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: BfloGuy

This country is so over with. After the long civil war, the survivors will laugh about such things and wonder what kind of drugs society was on to make a federal case over two little kids playing doctor. Or maybe they’ll be too busy gathering food to care.


19 posted on 11/25/2011 5:41:04 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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To: BfloGuy

Egregious idiocy on the part of all state judiciary involved.

They’re doing their level best to ruin some poor kid’s life over a trifle.

This is absolutely nauseating, and everyone concerned in state machinery should not only be fired, but punished legally, as well.


20 posted on 11/25/2011 6:17:21 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: BfloGuy
I'd start a recall petition against this DA. Picket in front of the house. Picket in front of the office.

Play hardball.

21 posted on 11/25/2011 6:33:49 PM PST by Darren McCarty (Anybody but Romney or Obama)
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To: BfloGuy
I am one of the least lawsuit-prone people I know, and "tort reform" could be my middle names.

However in this case I hope this family wins and wins big. I hope the prosecutor is forced to drop all charges and ends up putting the kid through Harvard on her dime.

What's more, I hope the family's lawyer hires a darned good PI who researches this prosecutor's life from the time she could walk, and digs up every possible "wrongdoing" she ever committed and drags them out publicly.

After all, based on her own standards, nothing she has done in her life can be considered "innocent," either.

Maybe if enough of these nitwits get publicly humiliated themselves, the idiocy will stop.

22 posted on 11/25/2011 6:45:34 PM PST by susannah59
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To: susannah59

I totally agree with you. You can be a twenty year old marine home from the front and not responsible enough to legally drink but a 6 year old is old enough to be charged as a sex offender.

This DA should be hung out to dry.


24 posted on 11/25/2011 7:12:25 PM PST by GrannyAnn
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To: BfloGuy

I played doctor when I was 6 and continued to play for many years and decades.


25 posted on 11/25/2011 7:14:17 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: BfloGuy

A 12-year-old commits murder, and we dare not charge him as an adult and ruin his life. But, a six-year-old playing doctor? Wait until you’re 18, son, and then you’re branded for life.

Can you imagine the phase where he has to walk the neighborhood to explain his status to his neighbors? “I’m a registered sex offender. I played doctor with a little girl when I was six and she was five.” Monster!


26 posted on 11/25/2011 7:29:08 PM PST by Rastus
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To: BfloGuy

Now, if we could only get Federal DAs to use immigation laws this way......


27 posted on 11/25/2011 7:45:45 PM PST by noprogs (Borders, Language, Culture....all should be preserved)
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To: BfloGuy

Used to be that a child under the age of 8 was deemed not capable of forming criminal intent, between 8 and 12 was left up to the court to decide and over 12 was deemed capable of forming criminal intent.


28 posted on 11/25/2011 8:02:20 PM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Scotsman will be Free
More evidence that the inmates are now running the asslyum.

Back in my day, when you were caught playing "doctor" you either got a talking to or ass whipping, sometimes both from your parents but calling the law was never even thought about.

29 posted on 11/25/2011 8:07:56 PM PST by sport
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When I was a kid no one called the cops, especially for crap like this. If we had, the cops would have arrested the caller for being stupid without a permit.
The neighbor would have simply told my parents of my wrongdoing, and my parents would have handled it.


30 posted on 11/25/2011 8:12:58 PM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Scotsman will be Free

Idiocy Bookmark


31 posted on 11/25/2011 9:05:47 PM PST by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

This country is so effed up I don’t know if it’s even worth saving.


32 posted on 11/26/2011 10:03:51 AM PST by goldi (')
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To: BfloGuy

This appears to be a particularly revolting case of political influence peddling with the absurd twist that the politician throwing his weight around cannot be named because his underage kids would be identified if he was!

So he and his wife hide behind their 5 year old son and daughter, and persecutes a 6 year old from behind the bushes. And they get a young and dumb DA to do their dirty work for them. What a pathetic bunch of bozos.

This will backfire, because now it’s going viral. The gross injustice will cause national pressure to be applied, and no small time county politico will be able to withstand the onslaught.

He will be named and shamed.


33 posted on 11/27/2011 7:10:45 AM PST by beckett (Amor Fati)
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